It’s a special Tuesday edition of Things Are Happening because it turns out a lot of things are happening, even since last Friday, and let’s be honest, I’m afraid I’m going to forget some of them if I wait all the way until this Friday, by which point Martha and Valeri will have been arrested for murder in the lost city of Atlantis. Which we’ll have to break down in detail.
A. The Board
This week (yeah only this week and not 17 years ago) the big three on the USAG board of directors resigned their positions. That’s the chairman Paul Parilla, vice chairman Jay Binder, and treasurer Bitsy Kelley.
Obviously, the first issue we have to address is what is Bitsy short for? Itsy Bitsy Spider? Because there’s your problem right there.
Sending Paul, Jay, and Itsy Bitsy Spider up the water spout was a necessary move. The whole hideous way this was (not) handled by the organization—the obsessive focus on protecting the financial and public reputation of the organization rather than the athletes— wasn’t exclusively a Steve Penny joint, and others in positions of leadership must be held responsible. This appears to have been driven by the USOC’s displeasure with how much bad press they’re getting USAG not taking responsibility—though Aly is none too happy about the USOC suddenly trying to play the “yeah, USA Gymnastics is a total butthead, amiright? We’re at the cool kids table like Aly” role in all of this.
Removing the board leadership is another necessary step (of many), and one that can be cathartic because it feels like the baddies are getting their comeuppance, but we’re also clearly still in the punishment phase rather than the progress phase. And those are different. These people weren’t the first. It wasn’t just Steve Penny; it was Bob Colarossi before him. It wasn’t just Paul Parilla; it was Peter Vidmar before him. And on and on down the line. If USAG simply appoints another Vidmar/Parilla to take over the board under the guise of “A FRESH START,” then no progress has been made and we’re right back to where we were.
None of us have enough faith in USAG at this point to think that won’t happen.
That’s the impetus behind the push for an investigation (a real investigation, not a Fran investigation)—and stronger legal requirements—so that specific rules can be put in place to prevent every little thing that happened here from ever happening again. It can’t be enough simply to say, “we think we’ve chosen someone of good character” as Parilla’s successor because psssssh. You don’t know that, and no one believes you anyway. The only way you can ensure that the next board leadership doesn’t pull the same thing is if you make it impossible. With RULES. And LAWS. Many very specific rules and laws. Otherwise everyone will continue being garbage.
B. GED OUT
Speaking of human garbage, John “award-winning gym” Geddert has been suspended by USAG because of his literally everything about him.
In addition to the whole enabling-Nassar thing, we learned more about Geddert this week as Lindsey Lemke, mother of fire emojis, shared some fun little anecdotes about Geddert dropping gymnasts in mid-air, hitting them with mats, and chucking ice at their heads. You know, coaching. Like a coach does. Or…no…not coach…what’s the word I’m looking for? Shit trench. That’s it. Like a shit trench does.
Geddert threw Makayla onto the low bar after getting mad at her. Ruptured lymph nodes in her neck, gave her a black eye, and tore the muscles in her stomach. This ended her gymnastics career. He also told her to kill herself many times, and after he ended her career, she tried.
— The Gymternet (@thegymterdotnet) January 23, 2018
They ALL have these stories.
The positive here: USAG actually seems to be doing something about an awful coach, and is doing so publicly. This is new and different. And it only took multiple hundreds of victim statements.
The negatives here: “…has been suspended by USA Gymnastics until it completes an investigation.” Uh…no. Too soon. “USA Gymnastics” and “investigation” don’t get to go in the same sentence. We still fundamentally don’t believe you’re going to do the right thing when handling things internally.
Oh there’s more. Today, because it never stops, Geddert decided to announce that he’s retiring. That’s convenient. He had been planning to retire this whole time, you guys. He totally would be retiring even if he hadn’t been suspended.
No. No no no. You don’t get off that easily. You don’t get to slink to the shadows. This has moved beyond USAG, anyway. Geddert’s behavior is a law-enforcement issue at this point. You don’t get to “retire” from that.
Interestingly, one of the last actions of the board of directors last month before the leadership was blown up was to institute the Don Peters rule, which states that if a permanently ineligible member retains an ownership interest in a club, that club loses its member status. So, if Geddert is ultimately added to the PIM list, he has to give up his ownership in the gym for it to remain a USAG member. (I’m sure there are 1500 loopholes in that, but still…)
And USAG, Geddert is far from the only Geddert. You don’t get to do one and then be done. It has to be everyone.
C. Mattie
For some reason (…I can’t think why…), this transitions nicely to Mattie Larson, who delivered her victim impact statement today.
“I can’t even put into words how much I fucking hate you.”
You knew Mattie wasn’t going to refrain from bringing the flames. She’s another one who got bounced from awful-to-awful-to-awful and had to deal with all of them one after the other after the other.
Few are better suited to detail the horrors of the ranch than Mattie, who was so traumatized by it that she tried to give herself a concussion to get out of going. Mattie also rightly addresses the lack of proximity to a hospital and the lack of phone service, both of which contributed to creating the culture of powerlessness where athletes became completely reliant on their tormentors and had no recourse but to fear and obey.
The amount of hateful stupid perpetrated by so many people here continues to be hard to fathom. What should be an exciting dream of going to the Olympics becomes a tool of exploitation and manipulation by so many others. Gymnastics HAS to cool it on the Olympics. That HAS to be a priority of whatever comes after this incarnation of USAG. What comes next must have a closer relationship with college gymnastics, because THAT is the pot of gold at the end of youth gymnastics, not the Olympics.
(I also think the vicious unhealthiness of “never be a quitter” culture is at play for a lot of miserable gymnasts in general, though that may be a topic for another time. But also, PLEASE QUIT. If you hate it, PLEASE QUIT. Your happiness has value and doing what you think you’re supposed to do is not worth being miserable.)
Mattie also addresses the complicity of Debbie van Horn, the athletic trainer and supposed chaperone for medical treatment, and of Valeri in contributing to the atmosphere of isolation, shunning, and general lack of basic humanity at 2010 worlds.
On that note, I couldn’t help but roll my eyes at the whole idea that Valeri has volunteered WOGA as a temporary replacement for national team camps. Uh…so it can be Ranch Part 2? Thanks, but no.
They still don’t get it. It’s not one person or one place. It’s all of you, always, everywhere.
When USAG does resume camps, which we know will happen, it must be in a neutral, open venue. Seclusion may have its focus-aiding virtues, but no. Too bad. You have lost your privacy privileges. If you truly have nothing to hide, then you shouldn’t mind opening the doors. There also must be a full-time standards and practices person at every camp, who outranks all coaches and national staff, whose sole job is to say, “You can’t do that. You can’t go over there with an athlete. You can’t be alone with an athlete in that room. You can’t talk to an athlete this way. You can’t do this. You can’t do that.” The coaches would hate it. Good.
D. AT&T
So, AT&T suddenly decided that USAG is bad? AT&T joins nearly all the other sponsors who have already done the same, likely realizing that in a little over a month it was about to have its name plastered all over a USA Gymnastics competition, and that probably wouldn’t look great. Or, uhhhhh, because they care. Sure. That. OK.
Don’t worry USAG. I’m sure you can find another title sponsor that better aligns with your corporate values. I, for one, am very much looking forward to the Hobby Lobby American Cup, brought to you by The Weinstein Company.
E. GymCastic
This week’s episode is out early, featuring the triumphant return of Uncle Tim, as well as our discussion of the victim impact statements from the first week of sentencing, the closure of the ranch, and Geddert.
Also, can we please discuss the absolute BS that MSU’s President isn’t realizing she is part of the problem? Ugh. She needs to go next.
And she’s out.
Along with things that need to go – the developmental camps. Your 8 year old does not need to be pulled out of school once a month to go to that horror show.
Yes! 🙌🏻
What are developmental camps? I had heard of them, but are they for certain levels and only athletes who win certain competitions? I never really understood why they were necessary.
There are two types of development camps: developmental and, a step below that, developmental invite camp. Developmental camp is for younger junior elites and Hopes gymnasts that are gonna be good and it’s a step below National Team Camp. Then invite camp is more for girls who are getting ready to break into the elite/hopes but aren’t quite there yet/haven’t been recognized by the national team staff. A lot of the older girls from TOPs testing will get invited to invite camp instead of TOPs A.
Hell yes. I honestly wish we would do away with the monthly developmental camps all together. Let gymnasts train with their coaches the way that they like. Obviously the system is built on fear and it shouldn’t be continued in general.
During this whole episode I have thought a lot about Elena mukina. The Russians were so scared of losing to the Romanians they were willing to do what ever it took even though it ended up killing one of their best gymnasts. The US program is not so dissimilar right now in terms of our fear of losing and doing anything to be the best…at all costs.
Where is not only MSU, but the Big Ten Conference and NCAA. The Big Ten has had its fair share of abuse allegations that were ignored. Penn State had Sandusky & Thompsons, and numerous other schools and sports. Yet they would rather make sure a student athlete doesn’t take money all while the universities are making millions. The athletic depatment administrators and Presidents that have ignored the abuse and yet still have jobs, and want to pretend that they have other things to worry about… like football.
I don’t think you can go after the Big Ten or NCAA here. They never received a single complaint of abuse, so how are they supposed to be responsible? If you want to hold them responsible, you need to change the entire structure of college athletics, which would mean taking away autonomy from the schools. That would be hard to do since they are state institutions.
We need to hold everyone who ignored complaints responsible, but we also need to ensure we don’t create more victims in this mess. The MSU President and Trustees need to go, but not everyone affiliated with the University has done wrong. Likewise trying to hold the Big Ten or NCAA responsible for Nassar and the actions if USAG and MSU is a stretch.
Also, we need to seriously look at mandatory reporter laws in this country.
Maybe if more of these girls actually went to school, maybe at least one would have had a health course that told them that this was not ok and maybe they would have spoken up to a teacher who would have been a mandatory reporter. Not saying this would absolutely have solved it, but I think that the increase in home/online schooling is contributing to the isolation and lack of safety net.
Actually tearing down the current structure of NCAA athletics wouldn’t be a bad thing – the days of athletes being punished for accepting $10 from someone when the institutions themselves are making billions (mainly football and March Madness hoops action) need to be over.
Also, the term professional needs to change – a 15 or 16 year old gymnast who goes pro shouldn’t be banned from competing in NCAA. She could compete on her team of choice as a walk-on (i.e. using her pro money to pay her own way) and then each subsequent year the finances should be re-evaluated to see how much she made so she could perhaps receive partial scholarships based on her performance for the team (and assuming she hit a peak and didn’t make Aly or Simone dollars or level of fame).
Appearances during school is dicey though it could benefit the school to have its student-athletes do this – how many Olympians return to school in swimming or track or soccer… There is probably a way for both the professional athlete and school to be satisfied and profit/benefit.
The days of the starving athlete while the school rakes in the money need to end.
“Maybe if more of these girls actually went to school, maybe at least one would have had a health course that told them that this was not ok and maybe they would have spoken up to a teacher who would have been a mandatory reporter.”
They did. Gymnasts told MSU Head Coach Kathie Klages in 1997. In 1999 Christie Achenbach told her running coach, Kelli Bert. In 2000, Tiffany Thomas Lopez told FOUR MSU athletic trainers (two that still work there). In 2002, Jennifer Rood Bedford also told one of the athletic trainers (Hadden) that Lopez spoke to. In 2004, Kyle Stephens told MSU professor and psychologist Dr. Gary Stollak, who is mandated to report abuse. Amanda Thomashow’s 2014 Title IX complaint was decided in favor of Nassar after THREE doctors he recommended (two still work at MSU) spoke to police in favor of him.
https://middleworldadventures.wordpress.com/2018/01/23/larry-nassar-sexual-abuse-part-5-msus-system-of-enabling/
asphochasphoch – I think the point the Anonymous poster was trying to make is that teachers in school are mandatory reporters. None of the people you listed are technically mandatory reporters unfortunately. Morally, yes, they should have done the right thing and helped these women report Nassar to the authorities (although judging by Brianne Randall’s experience, that may not have helped). But under the law, it seems like they may not have been required to do so. Hence the comment at the end that mandatory reporting laws need to be changed.
@Anon – the vast majority of athletes cost the school money. The number of programs who actually make money for the university is extremely low. In fact, most major college football programs don’t break even. The ones that do finance all other sports. For example, Ohio State’s football team basically pays for the entire athletic department and costs for all athletes.
The debate of paying athletes will only hurt the non-revenue sports. Gymnastics, especially mens teams, will be the first on the chopping block. Why pay athletes on top of scholarships when there is no money coming in to support the program? If we go this direction, the power 5 conference teams will stay afloat, although I suspect many sports will get cut. The other conferences would likely start cutting sports left and right.
I think the school point is a good one. I know Shannon Miller went to public school, but since then, who is the last National Team Member who did?
@Erin – did you read the comment you’re referring to, or check out the source? The author explicitly states that one of the people who received a complaint about Nassar WAS a mandated reporter. I don’t know how much more clear it could be.
@above anon – I believe several NT members went to public school in recent years. Ross and Hano definitely did, Shawn Johnson was said to be in public school at least part-time throughout her career, and I’m pretty sure there were several others.
@other anon – athletes should absolutely be paid, because it makes them employees of the school who can then be covered by workers’ comp and disability insurance. It is a massive problem for football players especially, who sometimes get lifelong severe injuries from playing for their schools, and are then left without health insurance the moment they are no longer able to play. Personally I think student athletes should receive a stipend like graduate students and have a union as well.
Thank you. Thank you. Aurgh.
The problem is not just Nassar. I’m not even sure the problem is mainly Nassar.
I don’t know what to say. I’m glad you’re saying some of it. I’m kind of sick of how much even Gymcastic, etc. have defended the camps over the years. On various levels, we all knew, didn’t we.
Parents also need to prioritize their child’s health over Olympic aspirations. Make sure they are happy. Know what goes on in the gym. If it doesn’t seem right, investigate and don’t be afraid to report (to police not just USAG).
I hear these countless stories and just keep wondering why not one parent called the police themselves. Institutionalized abuse is a horrendous system to break. Compounding the problem is the fact that these athletes have very little interaction outside the gym. A lot of abuse reports are filed by teachers and school nurses who see a change in behavior, notice bruises, or have students confide in them. So many elites are home-schooled; thus, there’s no one but their coaches and parents left to report. Often the parents are so wrapped up in their own busy lives and trust the coaches completely, that all signs of abuse are missed and go unnoticed.
Some parents are a major part of the problem because they think their child should be the start on the team (even one of five year olds) since its their “child’s dream” to go pro and make millions – in actuality the parents who act this way usually cause the child to detest the sport.
Parents also get into verbal and sometimes physical confrontations with each other and yell at coaches, other players on both their child’s team and the opposing team and at the refs/umpires/judges (many of whom are kids themselves and will quit the job leaving a lack of refs for the sport).
Mattie’s testimony broke me. It just broke me. All the women and girls have been so strong and powerful and amazing, but Miss Val’s excellent piece from the weekend as well as the BEYOND horrific anecdotes she shared made me absolutely sick.
Does Luan Peszek still work for USAG? She was VP of the women’s program during this time. Surely, she knew what was going on and likely saw the complaints and heard about abuse. Why is no one even mentioning her name when talking about changes? She was tight with Penny and Karolyi.
Sam’s mother?
Explains why Sam and Nastia get such cushy broadcasting jobs with limited experience whereas those of us who work hard for many years don’t get the opportunities. Nepotism sucks.
Gee, maybe Sam also has a broadcast job because she’s an Olympian, a multiple NCAA champion, and has a communications degree? And Nastia’s has something to do with her Olympic title, which is obviously mandatory for the NBC gig?
It’s really not fair to these two to say that their careers are down to their parents. Their athletic resumes are a thousand times more important than their genes.
Former NFL stars and the like get good broadcasting jobs on ESPN too. Because they have great knowledge of their sport, special knowledge from having competed at the level of those their commenting on, and they’re a recognizable face so they’re a special draw for viewers. There’s nothing wrong with it. I’m glad when gymnasts can make a long career from their hard work in gymnastics because the athletic part doesn’t last very long, despite all they put into it.
Sam is actually pretty good with broadcasting. I really like her, Amanda Borden, and Alicia Sacramone. I’m not a fan of Nastia on NBC because I don’t like her commentating style and I think it’s a conflict of interest when her dad is the coordinator. She is clearly biased and won’t be too critical of the program, particularly in this day and age.
Also, Tasha Schwikert was one of the best former athletes to ever commentate. She has since gone to law school and has moved on with her life, but I would love to see NBC being her back.
I thought Rhonda’s job is the one that Luan used to hold?
According to this Flo article she moved into a new role with USAG when Rhonda joined, so maybe she is still with USAG:
https://www.flogymnastics.com/articles/5042103-luan-peszek-named-usag-vice-president-of-program-development
Yep, but that means (1) Luan held it prior to Rhonda and had to have known what was going on and (2) she is still a VP at USAG.
The Nassar investigation broke shortly after Rhonda was hired. To me, it seems like Rhonda pursued the issue whereas everyone before her ignored it. I could be off, but I think Rhonda wouldn’t let it go like Penny and others wanted.
YES! To everything you said!
Geddert is absolutely one of the worst and the physical abuse makes it easy to call him out, but most of us who have been involved in this sport know that the emotional abuse described is absolutely still happpening all over the country. Just think about how many four year olds just got home fro another “mini team” practice in which it was reinforced, yet again, that their self worth can only be measured relative to how many other four year olds they were able to outperform, whether it be in pull-ups or actual skills. When it comes down to it, that is how many successful gyms are able to continuously produce top level gymnasts, but leave a pile of broken humans in their wake.
And Emma Ann Miller for president! That young lady is a better person than I will ever be!
Anonymous @4:18:
I did a workout about a decade ago in college at a fairly small gym (not one that produces elites), looking for another coaching job. They told me after my first day with rec preschoolers that it wasn’t going to work out because I gave a kid a high-five after she couldn’t figure out jumping on the springboard with two feet, and the head coach literally said, “You need to tell them they’re being stupid or they’ll never get it right.” Not getting hired there was a blessing. This coaching attitude is WAY too widespread.
I want to know the outcomes of the 2014 investigation into Geddert.
LOL… the Hobby Lobby American Cup, brought to you by The Weinstein Company.
After NCAA Board Vice Chair Joel Ferguson laughed when asked what he was going to do about MSU and said “No, to do what? This is not Penn State?” He deserves to go. What a sexist, horrible fucking statement to make while hundreds of women are still sharing their victim impact statements.
You’re 100% right. This isn’t just Nassar, it’s everyone who enabled him. Geddert, USAG, MSU, and everyone else along the way. They should burn USAG and make Aimee Boorman head of the Women’s Program. I doubt Ms Val would leave, but her second in command should be either an experienced NCAA coach who has had to pick up the pieces of these athletes or someone like Aly, who has gone through it.
I totally agree on the person who has to attend camps that is ranked higher than coaches. Athletes and well-being first. The goal of the sport isn’t to win, it’s to create happy, empowered, strong, and healthy (physically, mentally, emotionally) athletes.
I saw a recent interview with Shannon Miller and she would be excellent at USAG.
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Okay so Valeri Liukin. I had kind of a wish that he’d be caught up in this but I didn’t think that was realistic. I do now – if Geddert is getting tossed, it doesn’t seem like a huge jump to see the Karolyis getting tossed, and from there it’s not a huge stepstone to Liukin getting tossed.* What does the court reckon – is the Liukin empire actually under threat?
*hire someone in the mold of Aimee or Mihai, for fuck’s sake.
I like a lot about Mihai, but I’m still not sure he has the right mindset – e.g. no vacations, not focusing on things like nutrition, etc. And Aimee would be fantastic but I suspect wouldn’t be interested in the job.
There have been rumors of physical/mental abuse in gymnastics since it became popular in the US in the 1980s. The Karolyis were notorious for it, so I’m not sure why so many people are now acting surprised. There have been rumors about Liukin and about Geddert for a long time now. Although, I will also say harsh coaching doesn’t always equal abuse and Liukin’s practices may be more along the lines of harsh coaching (Geddert’s was clearly abuse). Either way, I would never want my child personally coached by him.
I am not sure how much someone like Mihai would be better than Valeri. I think Mihai is probably a better person, but he was just as keen to Please MArtha as everyone else was according to Aly^s book. He also overtrained Aly, at least before 2012, and he was always concerned what Martha would say about this and that. I think someone like Amy who is way more independent Thinking would be better
I agree on Mihai. What about Chris Waller? Or Sarah Jantzi?
I could imagine Chris Waller taking over, he does a good job at UCLA and seems like a nice guy.
If you want culture change, why not completely abolish the position of National Team Coordinator? Instead, you could make it a rotating role, filled by different people in the coaching community who were each appointed to one or two year terms. That way, the national team athletes could benefit from working with different coaches and different perspectives, and no one could ever have a “God role” like Marta Karolyi did. If USAG and the athletes found someone who was the right fit, that person could be appointed permanently.
Chris Waller would be the first person I’d appoint to this role. His experience at UCLA and as a gym owner (without national team athletes) give him the right perspective and experience. Also, it looks more likely each day that Jordyn’s going to take over when Miss Val is done, so maybe Waller would want to go in this direction.
First time commenter here.
Does anyone know what Evgeny Marchenko has been up to? I always liked how he handled Carly, he seemed to be Liukin’s exact opposite with his calm and reassuring behavior. He could very well be an option if Liukin is suspended.
I was uncomfortable when Valeri got Marta’s job, particularly after watching Bross blow out her knee and attempt that Patterson dismount over and over and how he always seemed to take athlete mistakes hyper personally. I was told he had significantly changed and was much more chilled out and now I feel stupid for ever accepting that answer. God help our national team.
Literally ALL the people who heard accusations of Nassar’s abuse at MSU are mandatory reporters under Title IX. Basically anyone who works at a University with students in any capacity should be attending mandatory Title IX training. The list of mandatory reporters seems broad, but it’s good – and it’s the University’s responsibility to ensure all of these people are getting this training. Purdue’s website lays it out pretty well: http://www.purdue.edu/titleix/complianceGuide/
The issue is complex:
1. That link is for Title IX mandatory reporters. This means faculty members, university staffers, coaches etc. must report complaints or reports of Title IX violations to the University, not law enforcement. This happened at MSU. There was a formal investigation into Nassar. The school screwed it up by calling witnesses that were all of Nassar’s colleagues and co-workers.
2. Complaints of child abuse must be reported to police. The vast majority of athletes at MSU are over 18. Thus, technically they weren’t dealing with child abuse and wouldn’t legally be required to report to law enforcement. Depending on State statute, there may be other crimes that must be reported, but that’s not always the case.
I want everyone gone at USAG and MSU who covered up the abuse or failed to do their job. But I think people need to also be mindful that not everyone working for those organizations are guilty of wrongdoing. Before we start calling for everyone’s heads, we should figure out what the person knew and when, and whether they took action, failed to take action, etc.
New commenter here – where can I read more about Geddert ‘s abusive coaching? He always gave me the eeby geebies 😠
There is a link included in this post. If you go under section B, find where the words “shared some” are clickable and click on them. That should take you to an article.
Thank you. Jesus, I had no idea it could be that bad without the coaches losing their licenses to coach. Or be arrested.
Spencer,
Thank you for all you have done to be a loud voice for this issue and for empowering women. Not only are all these brave women and girls heroes, but so are you and your gymcastic colleagues giving voice and holding those in power accountable for this horrible event.
I feel like the USOTC would be a good place to set the camps- they’ve got all the doctors, nutritionists, etc needed there, it’s in CO Springs, plus training at altitude is good for endurance. In addition, it’s not nearly so isolated- so harder to get away with bad behavior, hopefully.
Why are we not talking about the rest of the staff? Valeri Luikin, needs to go also.