30 thoughts on “Qualifying Score Outlook”

1. Too bad the last LSU score can’t be eliminated as a felony

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   1. Again – Edney’s score did not count toward the final – I was there and thought it was a fall, so was surprised about the outcome. I’ll give you that the beam was high and perhaps Kiya’s floor (though no more so than that same routine at OU, FL, or UCLA), but the overall vitriol directed towards LSU especially given the rampant overscoring of all the other major players is just so bizarre.

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      1. The Edney floor score was the most infuriating part (and it was dropped, like you said). The rest seemed like some fairly typical overscoring for a top team.

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      2. I’m getting the popcorn ready for the upcoming bars/beam fall where the gymnast scores a 9.60 – it’s coming right? 🙂

         A face-plant after missing a catch on bars…
         A tumble around the beam and having to touch ground to get back on top…

         What will it be and how much creativity will be involved?

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      3. We already had a beam fall for a 9.6. Peng at ASU a few years ago.

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   2. Remember, Louisiana ranks 50th as a state in just about every available metric related to education. Most of the crowd probably thought Edney should have gotten a 10. They would have booed a 9.8. You can’t fight stupid.

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      1. this is why people call out lsu hate. most people in the crowd don’t know much about gymnastics scoring so they would boo anything they don’t understand. it’s completely uncalled for to called them stupid because of that

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      2. Wow, you must be really intelligent to compare the LSU fans boos to the rank of Louisiana’s education. I didn’t know those two things go hand and hand. As a teacher IN LOUISIANA, I must be doing something wrong, since I’m not teaching the basics of college gymnastics scoring 🙄

         Remember everyone’s knowledge of gymnastics is not the same as yours. Should the fans boo, probably not. However, casual fans at an LSU gymnastics meet have NO CLUE how and why deductions are taken. They just want their team to do well. They don’t the minor details the judges are looking for. To the fans, the routines look great.

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      3. Wow, you must be really intelligent to compare the LSU fans boos to the rank of Louisiana’s education. I didn’t know those two things go hand and hand. As a teacher IN LOUISIANA, I must be doing something wrong, since I’m not teaching the basics of college gymnastics scoring 🙄

         Remember everyone’s knowledge of gymnastics is not the same as yours. Should the fans boo, probably not. However, casual fans at an LSU gymnastics meet have NO CLUE how and why deductions are taken. They just want their team to do well. They don’t know the minor details the judges are looking for. To the fans, the routines look great.

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2. Let’s not sleep on MSU who will likely be replacing a 191 with a potential 195+ next week 👀

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   1. MSU and Iowa both are ready to make a big leap – if Rutgers can get it together (they have the talent), might be the first time in a long time that the Big 10 has a shot at all teams qualifying for Regionals

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      1. It’s not the fans fault that the judges aren’t doing their job.

         I don’t think LSU is the fourth best team this year.

         I also wish they’d get ahold of score Inflation in general – it doesn’t really matter that much but IMO this isn’t the best OU team of the past five years – they shouldn’t be the ones setting the program record.

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3. That Stanford graphic is quite large lol

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4. This is where the over scoring hurts a team. Both Denver had Utah are better teams than LSU they reanimated lower which will hurt them in postseason placements. Of all over scoring this season LSU and Oklahoma are by far the most egregious. Oklahoma I believe is the best team but not by the indicated margin. Florida is 2 but UCLA Utah and Denver are pretty much equal. LSU isn’t in the same category this year. The sport is turning into a “beauty” contest where New York and Texas are always in the finals. I really hope this can be stopped before the sport is destroyed. Terrible judges should be sanctioned or fired. There needs to be an oversight review board within NCAA

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   1. The whole notion of less than half the scores actually counting is so out of whack and stupid. If they went to average score, a true outlier by a top team would only minimally damage the average. A team that only gets 197 half of the time doesn’t deserve to be seeded like a team that gets 197 every time.

      And if Brown is out, perhaps Denver will be the poster child for why RQS is a poor measure…aren’t they a bit of a dead team walking without her?

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      1. I think it depends on if they can find a vault/if Sundstrom can come back in the lineup. Denver tied their season high this past weekend and that was with Brown’s injury on floor resulting in a weak score there. If you look at that meet, they already did not count Brown’s score on floor, and the dropped score on bars and beam was only 0.1 lower than Brown’s counting score. But they have only had five vaults the last couple weeks while Sundstrom has been out. If Sundstrom comes back in, they may be OK. If not, they need to find another vault somewhere and who knows what that will look like.

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5. omg guys im not even an lsu fan but this crying over the edney’s score (which wasn’t event counted) and now the RQS benefit… it’s part of the rules and every team knows it and is able to play the “slow start” game…

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   1. If Edney’s score had been the only issue readers wouldn’t be so mad. That was just the most crack score – Harold and others were way over scored also – it was a totally crap score job – so many over scores. It is a regular occurance with LSU and everyone know it. Edney was just the icing on the cake this week. It has nothing to do with the “slow Start” to the season. They are consistently over scored – this was just so blatant that it could not we overlooked. Rewatch the meet on you tube if you still need convincing. Then watch a few of the other meets that were high 196 to 197 meets and do the comparison. You may have your eyes opened –

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   2. People have been complaining about RQS for years, it’s not just some anti-LSU vendetta that has people complaining now

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6. Is there any other NCAA sport where only half the regular season is considered when determining postseason eligibility? I know everything counts in football/basketball.

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   1. Edit: I’m aware that a crappy basketball team can luck into a NCAA spot by winning its conference tournament, but that feels different than seeding everyone based on their best 6 games and ignoring the rest.

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7. Where was all this hate over the rqs system before lsu got a bump from it? I’m so sick of the hate lsu gets here

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   1. People have been complaining about RQS for years. LSU is just the best present example for people’s issues with it.

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   2. People hate on the system every year. Usually, the hatred is geared towards Georgia and Florida. This year LSU is in the spotlight because they had two crazy meets this weekend. At the end of the year, it usually works out. Does it really matter where a team is ranked within 1-16? It’s not like the top seeds get to host (like in other NCAA sports). There’s no advantage to being ranked 4 instead of 8.

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      1. No but there’s a pretty huge advantage to being 28th over 29th, or being 36th over 37th.

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      2. Now that the match ups are at 4 regionals not 6, matchups in regionals can materially be off due to RQS – so it impacts seeding much more than it prior years. Does that make more upsets possible – you bet. Is that fun for fans – well that depends on where your team falls. Would teams not play with their line-ups as much, giving others a chance to shine, or some a chance to rest if RQS was abandoned? Strategy may or may not change, but it is unlikely the top 4 that would make it to Nationals under a different system would get denied a shot under this system.

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      3. Like the person said, being ranked between 1-16 doesn’t really matter. Not sure if the Anonymous talking about the lower ranked teams read the full comment — clearly having to do a play-in matters, but whether you are in the top four or 5-8 doesn’t make a big difference.

         It’s possible that team 16 will get an easier path than team 13 because it all comes down to how teams are put in regionals. A lower ranked team could catch a break just because they may get “easier” teams to compete against. I’m waiting to see if a gymnastics team will ever try to throw a meet in order to not move up in rankings and try to manipulate where they get placed in regionals.

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      4. That was me who posted about lower ranked teams. And the point you’re missing is that the RQS does much more than sort the top 16 teams. It determines who is seeded, who’s an at large, who has to do a play-in, and who misses regionals altogether. You think this doesn’t matter? Tell that to the team whose athletic director denies their request for more money because they haven’t made the postseason in ten years. Tell that to the coach who gets fired for not getting the results. Tell that to the athletes who no longer have a team because their school decides the team has no chance to be competitive and is no longer worth funding.

         The low-ranked teams are always going to have to eat a lot of shit, I’m not in denial of that. But at least make the methodology used to rank them less arbitrary.

         You can’t make excuses for RQS by saying it doesn’t matter how teams 1-16 are ranked, when THAT SAME SYSTEM determines the ranking of teams 17-82 and potentially has HUGE CONSEQUENCES for those teams.

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   3. People have been complaining about LSU’s scoring for like one minute in the history of this site. Also it’s well-deserved. Right now, LSU is not having a good season, yet they’re getting scored like they are.

      Be glad you’re not a UCLA fan – you wouldn’t have been able to handle the last three years.

      (speaking of which, where did all the UCLA hate go this year? did it graduate with Ohashi?).

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      1. I know right? I was thinking the same thing w/r/to Utah/Skinner.

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