#10 Stanford Preview

Recent History
Stanford’s recent results have been very much a mixed bag, the mixed-est of mixed bags. Since those very strong teams of 2007 and 2008 (the Tabitha Yim, Liz Tricase, Carly Janiga years), each year the Cardinal either finish a surprising and admirable 4th that few predicted (2010, 2012) or disappoint, missing Nationals entirely in 2011, suffering the Ivana Hong injury and limping to a semifinal 194 in 2013, or recording last year’s fine but tepid semifinal 196.600 (with 49.025s on vault and floor) that whiffed at a legitimate opportunity to take advantage of an off day from LSU.

2015 Outlook
At its healthy ideal, this year’s team appears closer to 4th place than a whiff and would seem under-ranked at #10. The roster should be emboldened by Ivana Hong’s return after a long injury layoff and the introduction of Elizabeth Price, who is still one of the top all-arounders in the world and is the most impressive freshman in this year’s national incoming class. They’re the boost this team needs, and with many of the routines from last season returning, the amount of Hong and Price contribution will largely dictate how much Stanford can improve on that 9th-place finish from last year.

As usual, don’t be surprised by some January and February 195s, especially as Price comes back from whatever foot-adjacent issue she has been dealing with, but in the end, Super Six is a realistic expectation for this roster. Anything less than that would be a disappointing finish. That’s especially true because several significant gymnasts, namely Kristina Vaculik, are in their final year of eligibility. It’s going to be harder in 2016 than it will be 2015. This is the year, at least until those other they’re-going-to-Stanford-but-no-one’s-saying-it elites arrive.

Vault

Returning lineup — Nicolette McNair (9.910 RQS), Rachel Daum (9.870), Kristina Vaculik (9.870), Taylor Rice (9.835), Danielle McNair (9.830), Melissa Chuang (9.825)

Stanford managed to put together a fairly competitive vault lineup last season, finishing 9th in the nation with an RQS of 49.325. They did, however, falter in the postseason with way too many 9.800s and 9.825s. One or two of those scores is OK this year, but it can’t be the entire lineup if they expect to make those Super Six dreams come true. The good news is that all six postseason vaults from last year are returning, so there’s no reason to expect regression and every reason to expect improvement. No, that’s not the good news. The actual good news is Elizabeth Price. Because obviously.

Last year, Stanford’s biggest problem on vault was the lack that one stellar routine, the 9.950 that can erase some wonky landings early in the lineup. They recorded zero 9.950s on vault all year, so there was rarely a margin for any bouncy landings. Price can be that stellar vaulter when healthy, and she and Nicolette McNair should be a competitive top duo for 9.9s. If the rest of the team can cobble together at least three more consistently 9.850 vaults, they should have a solid baseline from which to work toward 49.350s. That will keep them competitive enough so that they can shine on bars and beam. It’s not going to be the biggest, baddest vault lineup from top to bottom, but it doesn’t need to be a weakness this year. The rest of the returning vaulters should fight it out for the remaining spots, with Daum and Vaculik seeming the most likely given their performances last year, and Danielle McNair bringing the difficulty with her y1.5 for 9.825.

We all know Ivana Hong has an excellent yfull that can score a 9.900 as well, but in a career with two ACL tears suffered on vault, I wouldn’t count on anything . . . Just give us a lovely bars and beam, and we have no right to ask for anything more.

Bars

Returning lineup — Kristina Vaculik (9.910), Samantha Shapiro (9.890), Nicolette McNair (9.875), Danielle McNair (9.820), Taylor Rice (9.820)

I know we get tired of DLO dismounts in NCAA because everyone and her sister does one, but Stanford is allowed as many as they want. The Cardinal were quite lovely on bars last year, much better than their #9 ranking would suggest. As is often the case with this team, some weak early-season performances and random moments of frustrating inconsistency belied their true quality. To my eye (and therefore to all sane people’s eyes), they were the top bars team in the Pac-12 by the end of the 2014 season. They should be better this year.

Unsung hero Shona Morgan is gone, but Stanford returns Vaculik’s magical gienger and Shapiro’s magical toe point, both of which are 9.900-likely routines, and can add Price’s magical difficulty and Hong’s magical new Ray. That’s four top-class bars routines to end the lineup, and Nicolette McNair isn’t all that far behind. Round out the group with Taylor Rice (if the consistency is there), or Becky Wing or Danielle McNair, and Stanford should be competitive with the best teams in the country on bars. Those vital 49.400s will be doable, and even bigger scores can be expected. Just get those dismounts ready and actually landed. None of these perfect routines getting smacked for 9.7s after clumsy landings this year, OK?

Beam

Returning lineup — Nicolette McNair (9.865), Kristina Vaculik (9.865), Rebecca Wing (9.805), Rachel Daum (no RQS)

On beam, Stanford has lost two major players, and keeping up the same quality from the start of the season will be a challenge without those high-class routines from Shona Morgan and Amanda Spinner. Morgan and Spinner were often the most likely gymnasts to hit their routines as well as being the 9.9s saviors in that lineup. (I’m using this one final opportunity to mention how criminally underscored Shona Morgan was in that leadoff position, and now I promise I’ll never talk about it again.) The returning group of beamers is elegant but also somewhat terrifying. It is Stanford after all.

Still, 49.400 is a more valuable commodity on beam than on any other event because it’s the rarest, and Stanford should be one of the handful of teams capable of reaching that level. It won’t be an every-week thing, but it should happen. Ivana Hong’s gorgeousness will radiate into the other competitors in a sort of religious experience, but she won’t have to send out greatness vapors all by herself. She’ll have help from Price, the newly-consistent Rulfova queen Vaculik, and Nicolette McNair’s weekly 9.850. I’d also love to see Becky Wing and her Badass Bangs of Beam Dominance return to the lineup after coming on strong at the end of last season. It’s not necessarily the safest or most secure lineup, and we may see some serious beamtastrophes, but this group can score well when it’s all working (probably joined by whoever wins the consistency battle between Rice, Daum, and Hanset).

Floor

Returning lineup — Kristina Vaculik (9.895), Pauline Hanset (9.860), Rachel Daum (9.855), Taylor Rice (9.855), Jenna Frowein (9.775)

Sigh. I’m worried about floor. It was Stanford’s struggle event last year. They finished the regular season ranked #23 and managed to break the 49.3 barrier just three times during the year. So many double pikes and so much OOB. Some of those double pikes are excellent and can garner solid scores when packaged in a crisp routine, but they’re still double pikes. And as made clear by those RQSs, it was largely a rotation of 9.850s, which was not helped by the mid-season injury to Hanset just as she was starting to get those bigger scores. The best teams have weekly 9.950s at the back of the lineup, and Stanford didn’t have anything like that last year. Translation: the moment Elizabeth Price can contribute on floor, she needs to be in at least three of those lineup spots, maybe all six. She can change the tide.

It’s a tough scenario because Hong and Shapiro should be there, and coupled with Price, Vaculik, Hanset, and Rice (to throw out four) they would make up a pretty strong lineup and a big upgrade over last season, but their fragility makes it impossible to expect anything on floor. I’m worried they’d just collapse like Pinocchio. That’s why getting Nicolette McNair into the lineup this year becomes very important because she does bring the difficulty and the (as yet unrealized) 9.9 potential. Stanford couldn’t get her into the lineup and hitting in time last year, but her routine will be vital in the new season as a scoring boost over last year to increase the likelihood of those 49.3s. 

2015 Preseason Coaches Poll and Commentary

Once again, the NCAA coaches have made their selections in the year’s preseason poll because “But mom, all the other sports get to do it!” That also means it’s my turn to take the poll way more seriously than is intended or healthy.

-The coaches aren’t really going through and dissecting all the other teams and what routines they’ll be putting up this year, so selections are usually based on last year’s results, reputation, friendship, and how much gin is within reaching distance. (Unfortunately, the coaches weren’t that drunk this year. It sort of makes sense. Sort of.)

-I’m with them on the top 3, as I think pretty much everyone would be. I too would place Florida just ahead of Oklahoma because, even though Florida has lost a few more significant scores than Oklahoma, they’re also bringing in a stronger freshman class. Still, there’s very, very little between the teams as it stands now—it’s basically a dead heat until we see competition routines—so it’s interesting that more than twice as many coaches gave Florida a first-place vote than Oklahoma. Oklahoma gets less exposure than Florida and isn’t in a gymnastics power conference, and in spite of winning the co-title last season, is still fighting that reputation battle to some extent.

 -Who voted for UCLA and Utah in first place? Actually, I don’t need that question answered. It’s close, but I would put Utah ahead of UCLA. Utah has a bit more lineup depth right now and fewer perpetual injury question marks. UCLA has tremendous potential in a number of returning gymnasts who have not shown their full quality yet (Mossett, Pinches, Gerber, I’m talking to you), but potential isn’t scores.

-Alabama is still up in 4th, and I think that’s where I would have them as well. They’ve lost a bunch of routines and a head coach, but there’s still a ton of talent there that can certainly become a #4 team. I suppose we give them the benefit of the doubt until we see routines, much like how after Suzanne left, Georgia still got the #1 preseason ranking for the next year. 

-Michigan was ahead of Nebraska in the Big Ten coaches poll as well, but I don’t see it. Michigan has lost too many routines, and while Nebraska did lose Emily Wong, the Huskers have Grace Williams and Kamerin Moore to fill in those gaps. 9th may be a realistic finish in spite of making Super Six last year, but Nebraska would be my Big Ten pick right now.

-Stanford is also far too low for its talent level, but I get it. Stanford has had amazing rosters before and failed to deliver, so why should we expect this year to be any different? But still, Elizabeth Price, Ivana Hong, Kristina Vaculik, Sami Shapiro, Nicolette McNair, etc. That’s not a #10 roster. That’s a Super Six roster. They just have to prove it. For now, I’m letting myself believe that they will.

-It’s nice to see Cal in 14th (up from 22nd in the coaches poll last year). The coaches are taking notice of the amazing turnaround in that program. I think 14th is a very realistic finish for them this year.

-Arkansas was ranked 17th at the end of last season, so it’s going to be very tough for them to get up to 13th without Katherine Grable.

-The rest of the poll pretty much follows the usual order, with a few teams switching places here and there. The coaches have taken notice of Central Michigan’s strong last couple seasons and have graciously allowed them into the club.

-Well, if I’m going to tear through the coaches poll like this, I should probably present my own insane nonsense selections so that you all can destroy them and make everything even.

2015 Balance Beam Situation Ranking

1. Florida

2. Oklahoma

3. LSU

4. Alabama

5. Utah
-When Utah falls three times on beam in semifinals, you can feel free to say I told you so, but I think this is the year beam gets better.  

6. Stanford
-Yes, I did it.

7. UCLA

8. Georgia

9. Nebraska
-I’m not sure what to do with 7-9 here. Nebraska seems way under-ranked at 9, but UCLA and Georgia would feel similarly under-ranked in that spot. Stanford would be the safe choice, but why be safe with something this meaningless?

10. Auburn 
-With Caitlin Atkinson, Bri Guy coming back from injury, and the excellent Abigail Milliet joining the team, I’m in on Auburn for 2015. Like Stanford, if not now, then when?

11. Michigan
-This just feels wrong, but . . . do we see any higher than 10th happening this year? Markey, convince me that I’m wrong. 

12. Oregon State

13. Cal

14. Illinois

15. Boise State

16. Penn State

17. Arkansas

18. Minnesota

19. Arizona

20. Central Michigan

Because why not?

Now you. What are your picks?

The Latest from Training (and Talking)

In verbal news, earlier this week Jazmyn Foberg and Laurie Hernandez of MG Elite both verbaled to Florida, because so is everyone. They’re not set to start competing for Florida until 2019 (which is like 2230 as far as I’m concerned), and so much can happen between now and then, but it’s worth noting that the Florida elite pipeline is just getting stronger.

Oklahoma
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Michigan held a scored exhibition last weekend. Gymnastike has a whole mess of videos if you’re into that kind of thing. 

There’s no need to pay attention to the actual scores because it’s the beginning of December, but having just 7 people making the top 6 right now reinforces the importance of those few top-level AAers like Sugiyama and Artz and how much the team will be relying on Brianna Brown right away. Her bars routine still needs some cleaning up but stands out as one with major scoring potential because of her release amplitude. Also note that they were missing Lauren Marinez with injury and Austin Sheppard with continued recovery (?).        

Illinois
 

Cal – Is this the year Cal makes the top 15? If only because they have to train vault on the 15th floor.

Peng tells us about doing three events for UCLA (we’ll assume floor is out?). With Peng, Francis, and Peszek at the back of that beam lineup, UCLA is not allowed to be outside the top 2 or 3 teams on beam this year. Not allowed.http://player.ooyala.com/player.js?embedCode=N0aXY2cjpU_T7yoP2J3ib2PPwKC0qo_S&playerBrandingId=31ae5dc1510842789fbbb8c0a9ff1535&width=668&deepLinkEmbedCode=N0aXY2cjpU_T7yoP2J3ib2PPwKC0qo_S&height=376  

LSU is working bars dismounts, beam series, and beam dismounts.

Returning Scores for 2015

Yesterday, the Oklahoma Sooners got all intrasquady and have posted a few videos to faceplace. At the very least, it appears we will have to change Chayse Capps Love Fest 2014 to Chayse Capps Love Fest 2015. Also Haley Scaman is getting really familiar with the floor this year.

In other news, while we wait for the coaches to release their annual and extremely meaningful poll so that we can spend a week making fun of it, I decided to check out how the top teams stack up based only on the scores they’re returning from their postseason lineups last season. Because why not. 

For each of the top 10 teams last season, I inserted the RQSs of the returning gymnasts back into the lineups on each event, then replaced all the lost scores from now-departed seniors with 9.800, dropping the lowest score as we always do. I chose 9.800 because for teams of the highest level, it is the baseline replacement-level score. They all should be able to come up with at least 9.800s from backups. It’s a fine, regular, middle-of-the-road score.

Ranking the teams like this is a way of seeing how much scoring value each team has lost since last year. We can always say that one team lost 10 routines while another lost only 4, but that doesn’t necessarily reflect the value of those individual routines. If a team is losing a bunch of routines, but they’re mostly 9.825s, it’s probably not that hard to replace those scores. If a team is losing a few routines, but they’re 9.950s, that’s going to be much harder. Inserting 9.800 in place of those scores illuminates how much scoring value the freshmen, injury returners, and backups from last season will have to contribute for the team to return to (or improve on) last year’s level, not just how many lineup spots they’ll have to fill.

For gymnasts without an RQS, or one that was not appropriately representative, I used the season average for hit routines, which best mimics what RQS is intended to tell us.

1. LSU – 197.725
Vault – 49.475 [2]
Bars – 49.320 [5]
Beam – 49.375 [1]
Floor – 49.555 [1]

2. OKLAHOMA – 197.650
Vault – 49.530 [1]
Bars – 49.353 [3]
Beam – 49.329 [2]
Floor – 49.438 [3]

3. FLORIDA – 197.600
Vault – 49.390 [4]
Bars – 49.360 [2]
Beam – 49.325 [3]
Floor – 49.525 [2]

-A clear top three emerges in LSU, Oklahoma, and Florida, which is not surprising. Along with Alabama, they were the top teams last season, and Alabama lost a big bag of essential routines.

-Of these three, Florida is taking the biggest knock this year without Caquatto and Johnson, but the Gators will balance that out by having the year’s most impressive freshman class. It does means that among these teams, Florida needs to get the most out of its freshmen and returning backups, whereas LSU is returning its entire floor lineup from Super Six last year, so further contribution there would just be a bonus.

-LSU is retaining the most value of any team, but that bars ranking (5th of these 10 teams) reflects the dire lack of Sarie Morrison. The other low(ish) team ranking in this group is Florida’s vault, with the 4th-best returning vault contingent, but they do look to be stronger there is season than last season with Kennedy Baker and Alex McMurtry coming in.

-Oklahoma is already returning the best vault scores, and now they’re adding Brenna Dowell and Ali Jackson. So there’s that. Interestingly, without Taylor Spears, Oklahoma drops below LSU on beam for its returning scores, but make no mistake, the Sooners won’t be throwing up some measly replacement-level 9.800 in that lineup.

4. UTAH – 197.331
Vault – 49.465 [3]
Bars – 49.335 [4]
Beam – 49.151 [7]
Floor – 49.380 [4]

-Utah lost quite a few routines, but most of the biggest scores are returning because Dabritz is still there. They do drop to 4th in returning floor scores because half the lineup is gone now. I’m interested to see who makes floor this year because it’s a real question for the first time in a while.

5. UCLA – 197.029
Vault – 49.160 [9]
Bars – 49.320 [5]
Beam – 49.315 [4]
Floor – 49.234 [5]

-This is the best illustration of why Pua Hall’s vault is UCLA’s most important freshman routine. Not having Olivia Courtney’s score in there really exposes UCLA’s recent struggles on that event. Still, 5th place in returning scores is higher than I thought it would be. 

6. ALABAMA – 196.967
Vault – 49.280 [7]
Bars – 49.320 [5]
Beam – 49.210 [5]
Floor – 49.157 [9]

-I’m actually impressed that Alabama stayed this high in these rankings given how many routines they have dropped. Nonetheless, it is evidence of how many new, significant routines they need this season, particularly on floor with three of their four best routines gone now. On that event, Alabama is going to have a “Where are the 9.9s?” kind of January. That’s my biggest question at least.

7. STANFORD – 196.964
Vault – 49.315 [6]
Bars – 49.315 [8]
Beam – 49.164 [6]
Floor – 49.170 [7]

-It’s interesting that when we use only the returning scores, all the Pac-12 teams move up. Stanford has lost a couple critical routines form last year in terms of wonderfulness, but not too many huge scores. With this roster, I have one condition for Stanford this year: You have to be amazing.

8. GEORGIA – 196.952
Vault – 49.215 [8]
Bars – 49.465 [1]
Beam – 49.082 [9]
Floor – 49.190 [6]

-Georgia is a little bit lower than they should be here because Brittany Rogers wasn’t in most of those postseason lineups even though she contributed to the team RQS throughout the season. So, the Gymdogs are returning more scores than it appears, particularly on vault and beam.

-MANY of the top teams have lost their best bars workers (Caquatto, Johnson, Spears, Morrison, Wong), but with Georgia retaining Rogers and Chelsea Davis and company, they start with a clear bars advantage over all the other teams. The rest have to use their various new Brenna Dowells to catch up.

9. NEBRASKA – 196.770
Vault – 49.360 [5]
Bars – 49.169 [9]
Beam – 49.092 [8]
Floor – 49.149 [10]

-Lack of Emily Wong. It’s good for no one.

-But, Grace Williams and Kamerin Moore.

10. MICHIGAN – 196.429
Vault – 49.085 [10]
Bars – 49.110 [10]
Beam – 49.075 [10]
Floor – 49.159 [8]

-Michigan lost the most of any of the top 10 teams by a pretty big margin. It was always going to happen with all those stars leaving at the same time.

-Like Georgia without Rogers, Michigan is returning more than is reflected here because of Sheppard missing the postseason last year.