Final NQS Scenarios

Conference championships provide the final chance for teams to change their rankings before the regionals draw, so we now know exactly what NQSs teams can achieve and what their ranges of possible final rankings are.

Bold scores must be included as part of the six and can no longer be dropped.


1. Oklahoma – 198.475

Road score 1198.375
Road score 2198.350
Road score 3198.325
Home/road score 1198.775
Home/road score 2198.675
Home/road score 3198.650
NQS:198.475

Max Possible NQS: 198.500
Possible Ranking Range: 1

Oklahoma is done, set with the number one overall ranking.


The Race for #2: Cal moved back ahead of LSU this week, though it’s still up for grabs as to who will ultimately finish in 2nd. LSU would have to score a minimum of 197.900 at SECs, otherwise the #2 spot is Cal’s. If LSU does get that 197.9 or more, then it’s up to how much Cal increases its own NQS and we’ll be pulling out the calculators (like mine isn’t already out) since the two have almost identical max possible NQSs. Neither Cal nor LSU can be shifted from the 2-3 spots and will be #1 seeds at their respective regionals.

2. Cal – 198.180

Road score 1198.550
Road score 2198.400
Road score 3197.950
Home/road score 1198.500
Home/road score 2198.100
Home/road score 3197.950
NQS:198.180

Max Possible NQS: 198.300
Possible Ranking Range: 2-3

3. LSU – 198.125

Road score 1198.425
Road score 2197.950
Road score 3197.625
Home/road score 1198.475
Home/road score 2198.325
Home/road score 3198.300
NQS:198.125

Max Possible NQS: 198.295
Possible Ranking Range: 2-3


4. Florida – 197.905

Road score 1198.225
Road score 2197.925
Road score 3197.700
Home/road score 1198.150
Home/road score 2197.900
Home/road score 3197.850
NQS:197.905

Max Possible NQS: 198.010
Possible Ranking Range: 4-6

Florida can’t move up higher than 4th but has the edge for the #4 ranking (and #1 seed at the Florida home regional) and would need 197.950 at SECs to clinch it. There’s a very outside chance Florida could drop all the way to 6th, but it’s almost sure that Florida will be in that 4-5 regional.


5. Utah – 197.840

Road score 1197.875
Road score 2197.775
Road score 3197.725
Home/road score 1198.300
Home/road score 2198.075
Home/road score 3197.750
NQS:197.840

Max Possible NQS: 197.950
Possible Ranking Range: 4-7

Utah does have a potential shot to pass Florida, though 4-5 go to the same regional, so swapping places wouldn’t do all that much. Absolutely securing the #5 ranking no matter what Kentucky does would take 198.125. Now, whether that’s actually the ranking you want remains to be seen. Right now, with host rearrangement, Utah and UCLA would both head to Florida, and I’d kind of rather be ranked 6th than 5th, but things can (will?) change rapidly on Saturday in that regard, especially since UCLA has such a big range of possible rankings.


6. Kentucky – 197.810

Road score 1197.925
Road score 2197.800
Road score 3197.600
Home/road score 1198.100
Home/road score 2197.950
Home/road score 3197.775
NQS:197.810

Max Possible NQS: 197.910
Possible Ranking Range: 4-9

Kentucky does have a shot to move into that 4-5 regional, requiring at very minimum 197.750. So if Kentucky beats that mark, then we start looking at what Utah is scoring. A 197.925 will also be a goal score for Kentucky since that would sew up at minimum the #6 ranking.


7. Alabama – 197.760

Road score 1198.025
Road score 2197.675
Road score 3197.575
Home/road score 1198.075
Home/road score 2198.000
Home/road score 3197.525
NQS:197.760

Max Possible NQS: 197.870
Possible Ranking Range: 5-9

To move up any, Alabama needs 197.775 and then help, but it is possible. Guaranteeing the #7 ranking takes 197.925, and guaranteeing a spot in the top 8 (and #2 regional seeding) requires 197.800.


8. Denver – 197.700

Road score 1197.750
Road score 2197.625
Road score 3197.350
Home/road score 1198.025
Home/road score 2198.000
Home/road score 3197.775
NQS:197.700

Max Possible NQS: 197.835
Possible Ranking Range: 6-10

Denver has a (for 2024) low road score to get rid of with that 197.350, so the number required to start to have a shot to move up on Alabama is a pretty manageable 197.650, though again that’s more up to Alabama and company than Denver. Because UCLA has such a high potential peak now, guaranteeing the #8 ranking for Denver would require 197.925, though in reality I don’t expect it to take quite take that much.


9. Michigan State – 197.615

Road score 1198.050
Road score 2197.475
Road score 3197.275
Home/road score 1198.150
Home/road score 2197.725
Home/road score 3197.550
NQS:197.615

Max Possible NQS: 197.735
Possible Ranking Range: 8-10

Michigan State has the slight complication of hosting Big Tens. (Presumably because the Big Ten hasn’t yet figured out that you can cheat the system by hosting the conference championship at some other local arena where everyone gets to count it as a road score? Or they’re, like, trying to be fan friendly or some weird concept?) That means MSU can’t get rid of that 197.275 road score and has a bit of a lower max than expected.

The #8 spot is possible depending on Denver’s score. Usually the difference between being #8 and #9 wouldn’t be significant because they go to the same regional, but potentially not so much this year. Right now, with Michigan sitting in 10th and currently having a host conflict with Cal, we would probably see Michigan promoted to 9th and Michigan State dropped to 10th to resolve the host conflict if it stayed this way. So there could be an actual difference between finishing 8th and 9th this year.

But, to ensure finishing at least ranked at #9, MSU will be looking for UCLA to score under 197.575 at Pac-12s, which would confirm that UCLA cannot pass.


10. Michigan – 197.545

Road score 1197.650
Road score 2197.500
Road score 3197.400
Home/road score 1197.725
Home/road score 2197.625
Home/road score 3197.550
NQS:197.545

Max Possible NQS: 197.610
Possible Ranking Range: 10-12

Michigan cannot rank any higher than 10th (though as noted above, could get swapped into the 9th seed if everything stays the same) and will mostly be at the mercy of UCLA’s score. Michigan and Arkansas also have exactly the same peak, so while Michigan has the edge in currently recorded scores, that could still go either way.


11. UCLA – 197.520

Road score 1197.425
Road score 2197.175
Road score 3197.100
Home/road score 1198.550
Home/road score 2198.075
Home/road score 3197.825
NQS:197.520

Max Possible NQS: 197.810
Possible Ranking Range: 6-12

UCLA’s 198.550 on Saturday has changed the game in terms of giving UCLA a gigantic peak NQS should that score somehow be repeated in Utah this coming weekend. The most attainable goal for UCLA would be the #10 ranking, which would be locked with 197.575 at Pac-12s, regardless of what Michigan or Arkansas score. That vicinity of score would also put UCLA in contention to catch Michigan State depending on what MSU does.

There’s also a mathematical chance for UCLA to put pressure on teams in the top 8, though we’re talking a big 198 plus help from others for that to start being something to think about.


12. Arkansas – 197.445

Road score 1197.650
Road score 2197.525
Road score 3197.375
Home/road score 1198.100
Home/road score 2197.400
Home/road score 3197.275
NQS:197.445

Max Possible NQS: 197.610
Possible Ranking Range: 10-14

Arkansas could jump up, though it would take at least 197.650 out of the early session at SECs for that to be a considered possibility. Keeping the #12 ranking would be assured with 197.425.


13. Missouri – 197.420

Road score 1197.600
Road score 2197.475
Road score 3197.400
Home/road score 1197.525
Home/road score 2197.375
Home/road score 3197.325
NQS:197.420

Max Possible NQS: 197.475
Possible Ranking Range: 12-14

Missouri could swap with Arkansas, though 12 and 13 go to the same regional (and Arkansas has potential host-conflict-movement anyway) so kind of whatever with that. Staving off Auburn would be assured with 197.500.


14. Auburn – 197.315

Road score 1197.575
Road score 2197.100
Road score 3197.050
Home/road score 1197.725
Home/road score 2197.425
Home/road score 3197.425
NQS:197.315

Max Possible NQS: 197.450
Possible Ranking Range: 12-15

Auburn’s chances to move up would require at least a 197.575. So if that happens, then we start to talk. A seeded position at regionals is already assured, but 197.275 would confirm that Minnesota cannot pass.


The Race for a Seeding: 14 of the 16 seeded spots at regionals are locked up, with two still to be decided. The two highest potential NQSs among the contenders belong to Minnesota and Georgia, with Oregon State close behind, so here are their scenarios:

–If Minnesota scores 197.200 or more, Minnesota clinches a seeding
–If Georgia scores 197.450 or more, Georgia clinches a seeding
–If Oregon State scores 197.225 AND Georgia goes sub-197.075, Oregon State clinches a seeding

Ohio State is currently in 16th place but with a lower peak NQS than those three, so they’ll be looking to max out their own score and root for others not to reach the above goals. Basically, if everyone gets terrible scores, Ohio State clinches a seeding. Otherwise, we get into scenarios like if Ohio State scores 197.350 AND Oregon State goes sub-197.200 AND Georgia goes sub-197.050, then Ohio State clinches a seeding.

Stanford, NC State, Kent State, and Arizona State are also technically still alive in the race for a seeding, though the chances are slimmer and require a lot of things folding in the exact right way on the day, so we’ll see.

15. Minnesota – 197.190

Road score 1197.725
Road score 2197.525
Road score 3197.400
Home/road score 1197.175
Home/road score 2196.950
Home/road score 3196.900
NQS:197.190

Max Possible NQS: 197.355
Possible Ranking Range: 14-18


16. Ohio State – 197.100

Road score 1197.125
Road score 2197.125
Road score 3197.000
Home/road score 1197.350
Home/road score 2197.150
Home/road score 3197.100
NQS:197.100

Max Possible NQS: 197.170
Possible Ranking Range: 16-22


17. Oregon State – 197.085

Road score 1197.075
Road score 2196.950
Road score 3196.775
Home/road score 1197.575
Home/road score 2197.400
Home/road score 3197.225
NQS:197.085

Max Possible NQS: 197.245
Possible Ranking Range: 15-22


18. Georgia – 197.030

Road score 1197.450
Road score 2196.975
Road score 3196.350
Home/road score 1197.550
Home/road score 2197.300
Home/road score 3197.075
NQS:197.030

Max Possible NQS: 197.270
Possible Ranking Range: 15-22


19. NC State – 196.960

Road score 1196.850
Road score 2196.825
Road score 3196.750
Home/road score 1197.575
Home/road score 2197.375
Home/road score 3197.000
NQS:196.960

Max Possible NQS: 197.125
Possible Ranking Range: 16-24


20. Stanford – 196.930

Road score 1197.675
Road score 2196.625
Road score 3196.600
Home/road score 1197.975
Home/road score 2196.875
Home/road score 3196.875
NQS:196.930

Max Possible NQS: 197.205
Possible Ranking Range: 15-25


21. Arizona State – 196.920

Road score 1196.975
Road score 2196.850
Road score 3196.700
Home/road score 1197.600
Home/road score 2197.250
Home/road score 3196.825
NQS:196.920

Max Possible NQS: 197.100
Possible Ranking Range: 16-25


22. Arizona – 196.885

Road score 1196.950
Road score 2196.875
Road score 3196.850
Home/road score 1197.000
Home/road score 2196.900
Home/road score 3196.850
NQS:196.885

Max Possible NQS: 196.915
Possible Ranking Range: 22-29


23. Kent State – 196.860

Road score 1197.725
Road score 2197.100
Road score 3196.950
Home/road score 1197.200
Home/road score 2196.925
Home/road score 3196.125
NQS:196.860

Max Possible NQS: 197.180
Possible Ranking Range: 16-30


24. Penn State – 196.825

Road score 1197.000
Road score 2196.875
Road score 3196.650
Home/road score 1197.025
Home/road score 2196.825
Home/road score 3196.775
NQS:196.825

Max Possible NQS: 196.900
Possible Ranking Range: 22-30


25. Towson – 196.800

Road score 1196.775
Road score 2196.600
Road score 3196.575
Home/road score 1197.500
Home/road score 2197.425
Home/road score 3196.625
NQS:196.800

Max Possible NQS: 196.975
Possible Ranking Range: 19-32


26. Nebraska – 196.755

Road score 1197.375
Road score 2196.500
Road score 3196.125
Home/road score 1197.150
Home/road score 2197.125
Home/road score 3196.875
NQS:196.755

Max Possible NQS: 197.005
Possible Ranking Range: 19-33


27. Washington – 196.735

Road score 1197.200
Road score 2196.950
Road score 3196.500
Home/road score 1197.175
Home/road score 2196.550
Home/road score 3196.500
NQS:196.735

Max Possible NQS: 196.875
Possible Ranking Range: 23-33


28. Maryland – 196.725

Road score 1197.300
Road score 2197.050
Road score 3196.725
Home/road score 1196.725
Home/road score 2196.675
Home/road score 3196.450
NQS:196.725

Max Possible NQS: 196.895
Possible Ranking Range: 22-33


29. Clemson – 196.690

Road score 1196.825
Road score 2196.550
Road score 3196.375
Home/road score 1197.600
Home/road score 2197.350
Home/road score 3196.350
NQS:196.690

Max Possible NQS: 196.940
Possible Ranking Range: 20-33


30. Boise State – 196.655

Road score 1197.025
Road score 2196.800
Road score 3196.250
Home/road score 1196.825
Home/road score 2196.750
Home/road score 3196.650
NQS:196.655

Max Possible NQS: 196.810
Possible Ranking Range: 25-34


31. Illinois – 196.630

Road score 1196.850
Road score 2196.550
Road score 3196.400
Home/road score 1197.275
Home/road score 2196.850
Home/road score 3196.500
NQS:196.630

Max Possible NQS: 196.805
Possible Ranking Range: 25-34


32. Southern Utah – 196.585

Road score 1196.800
Road score 2196.525
Road score 3196.250
Home/road score 1197.125
Home/road score 2196.850
Home/road score 3196.500
NQS:196.585

Max Possible NQS: 196.760
Possible Ranking Range: 26-35


33. San Jose State – 196.555

Road score 1196.675
Road score 2196.650
Road score 3196.600
Home/road score 1196.575
Home/road score 2196.500
Home/road score 3196.450
NQS:196.555

Max Possible NQS: 196.600
Possible Ranking Range: 32-35


33. BYU – 196.555

Road score 1197.000
Road score 2196.750
Road score 3196.600
Home/road score 1196.500
Home/road score 2196.475
Home/road score 3196.450
NQS:196.555

Max Possible NQS: 196.665
Possible Ranking Range: 30-35


35. Ball State – 196.520

Road score 1198.025
Road score 2197.425
Road score 3196.100
Home/road score 1196.600
Home/road score 2196.400
Home/road score 3196.075
NQS:196.520

Max Possible NQS: 196.910
Possible Ranking Range: 22-35


The Race for Regionals: It’s an unusually small group of teams still in limbo about their regionals fate this year with 35 of the 36 spots already locked in and three teams battling for that last spot. Here’s the deal:

If Iowa State scores 196.700 or better, Iowa State clinches the spot.

If Iowa State scores 196.375 or better, Iowa is eliminated, though George Washington might still be alive as long as GW has scored at least 196.775.

–If George Washington scores under 196.475, George Washington is eliminated regardless of what the others do.

–If Iowa scores under 196.250, Iowa is eliminated regardless of what the others do.

36. Iowa State – 196.325

Road score 1196.700
Road score 2196.150
Road score 3195.950
Home/road score 1196.900
Home/road score 2196.650
Home/road score 3196.175
NQS:196.325

Max Possible NQS: 196.515
Possible Ranking Range: 36-38


37. Iowa – 196.305

Road score 1196.550
Road score 2196.450
Road score 3196.300
Home/road score 1196.400
Home/road score 2196.225
Home/road score 3196.150
NQS:196.305

Max Possible NQS: 196.385
Possible Ranking Range: 36-38


38. George Washington – 196.145

Road score 1197.200
Road score 2195.675
Road score 3195.575
Home/road score 1196.625
Home/road score 2196.600
Home/road score 3196.250
NQS:196.145

Max Possible NQS: 196.470
Possible Ranking Range: 36-39


The current regionals seed distribution based solely on ranking would be as follows:

–1 Oklahoma, 8 Denver, 9 Michigan State, 16 Ohio State
–2 Cal (host), 7 Alabama, 10 Michigan (host), 15 Minnesota
–3 LSU, 6 Kentucky, 11 UCLA, 14 Auburn
–4 Florida (host), 5 Utah, 12 Arkansas (host), 13 Missouri

The cleanest host redistribution, in which you don’t move anyone more than one ranking spot, would see Arkansas switch with UCLA and Michigan switch with Michigan State.

–1 Oklahoma, 8 Denver, 10 Michigan (host), 16 Ohio State
–2 Cal (host), 7 Alabama, 9 Michigan State, 15 Minnesota
–3 LSU, 6 Kentucky, 12 Arkansas (host), 14 Auburn
–4 Florida (host), 5 Utah, 11 UCLA, 13 Missouri

If I were to trrrryyyy to map out geographical placements of the current 36 into those regionals (which is always a tenuous game), here’s where I am with it:

MICHIGANCALARKANSASFLORIDA
OklahomaCalLSUFlorida
DenverAlabamaKentuckyUtah
MichiganMichigan StArkansasUCLA
Ohio StMinnesotaAuburnMissouri
Kent StOregon StArizona StGeorgia
Penn StStanfordArizonaNC State
MarylandWashingtonNebraskaTowson
Play ins
IllinoisBoise StSo. UtahClemson
Iowa StSan Jose StBYUBall St

I made a point here of trying to keep the top 28 teams out of the play-ins and put teams 29-36 into them (hence geographical weirds like Ball State going to Florida instead of Michigan), but the committee definitely doesn’t do that. NC State in 2021, Iowa State in 2022, Arizona in 2023. All got the scores required to have a ranking high enough to avoid the play-ins but got demoted into them based on the state they’re in. #28 Maryland could be in danger of that right now if they get put in the Florida regional.

There’s also a fun provision in the manual where they’re supposed to try to avoid conference rematches in the placement of teams while also placing them based on their geography, which…how both things? Although starting next year, I guess that becomes easy.


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7 thoughts on “Final NQS Scenarios”

  1. What do you mean by starting next year, it will be easy? Did they announce they’ll do placement strictly by ranking?!?! I hope so! It’s the easiest post-season to set because of the ranking system. I’ve never understood why they even mess with geographical placement.

    Also, the cut-off for regionals being low-196s is crazy. Pre-covid (when scoring started to soar), the cut-off was usually mid-195s. Really shows how scores have increased.

    1. In terms of conference rematches since Pac 12 is dissolved, Oklahoma goes to SEC, Cal and Stanford go to ACC, and UCLA and Washington go to Big Tens. Because then geography won’t matter if they are trying to avoid conference rematches.

      The simple move would be that 1-36 gets seeded to regionals according to rank and not geographical placement, which is how most sports do it and how gymnastics should. Once the new format of going to 4 regions instead of 6 was put into action, the geographical placements is obsolete.

      1. Also, Clemson filed a suit against the ACC. With FSU and Clemson showing signs of fleeing, the ACCs days are numbered anyway. It’s just a matter of when at this point.

        I suspect Clemson would go to SEC, UNC seems likely to Big Ten (although could be SEC too), NC State most likely to Big 12, Cal/Stanford would likely be Big Ten or Big 12, and Pitt will be begging for the Big 12 to take them.

        Like Anon said, just use the rankings for regional seeding. The sport is subjective enough. Why add a committee to seeding when it is completely unnecessary?!?!

  2. Ball State will compete at Michigan. 100%. They are only 220 miles from Ann Arbor and all teams within 400 miles must be sent to that regional by NCAA regulation (unless there are too many). So Kent State, Penn State, Ilinois, and Ball State will all be at Michigan. Also, using the “try not to send too many from 1 conference” thing, I don’t think MD would go to Mich.

  3. You had an interesting point. If I’m Utah, I’d rather avoid flying across the country to be in the Florida regional with UF and UCLA (assuming UCLA does not pass MIch). If UCLA does pass Mich and we end up with Cal at 2, Mich at 11, and Ark at 12, that will be a mess and interesting to see how they try to get a host for the 1-8-9-16 group.

  4. Who else wrote a formula for CAL vs LSU only to find out (since PAC12 session 2 was TBA before) that the meets will be simultaneous so…. And is now the time to complain about LSU getting that might-as-well-be-home advantage while CAL has to go to Utah?

    1. I’m sure Cal is perfectly fine with going to Utah for PAC 12s and hosting a regional. Most schools would rather have that home advantage at regionals!

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