Before the NCAA season begins, it’s time for the now-annual venture into the murky world of NCAA scoring for those who might want to know a little more about what’s going on. Fair warning: you’ll be saner if you don’t.
Unlike on the other events, where we have skills and letters and composition requirements and bonus rules, on vault we have simply a set of predetermined start values for every vault.
You can check out the full list of vaults if you’d like, but the most pressing issue on vault is the quest to have a 10.0 start value. Because the omnipresent Yurchenko full is valued at 9.95, having a 10.0 vault can provide a decisive advantage, and a lineup of all 10.0 vaults would begin with a margin of .250 over a lineup of all Yurchenko fulls.
Here is a list of the 10.0-value vaults that you’ll see with any frequency in NCAA. The golden geese of vaulting.
One change in NCAA for the 2019 season is that the athletes must flash the vault number they intend to perform, just as they do in elite. In the past, NCAA vaulters only had to flash the family number.
With the values set, all we have left to deal with are the deductions. Just those. The most important thing you need to know about NCAA deductions is ‾\_(ツ)_/‾. Keep that in mind at all times.
NCAA pretends that it follows the JO code of points, except it obviously doesn’t. Not even a little. There’s a tremendous amount of subjectivity remaining in NCAA scoring, including an unwritten understanding regarding which deductions from the JO code actually count and which ones magically don’t for the purpose of scoring NCAA routines. The standard is, “We take the JO code of points, and then just ignore all of it. The end. Here’s your score. Fetch.”
So, in these sections, I’m going to deviate from (deviate from = completely ignore) the code of points we’re actually supposed to be following and instead discuss the reality of what I see getting taken.
This is not an exhaustive account of deductions, but rather an overview of the main things to look out for. Since only one element is being performed on vault instead of the normal 8, there are theoretically fewer areas in which to take deductions. As a result, deductions for issues like landing position or a well-sold fakey-stick—things that might be forgiven at the end of a bars routine if they’re minimal—are less likely to be forgiven on vault. So let’s start with those landings.
Here’s the deal with landing deductions. Small steps will get .05 off for each step, while larger steps, along with hops and lunges, will get .10 off. In general, hops are supposed to be punished more severely than steps because they demonstrate less control (two feet moving, rather than one foot moving and one foot planted), though typically you’ll see the .05 treatment also given for very small hops, little bounces in place, and baby slides back with both feet. A hop in place is not a stick and will be deducted, unless you’re a home team ranked in the top 10, in which case the judges will decide to go temporarily blind in the middle of your landing and treat hops in place and baby slides as sticks, even though they’re not.
Hey, I told you I was going to discuss the reality of what I see getting taken. That is the reality of what I see getting (not) taken.
But in general, there is less benefit of the doubt given on vault for fake landings or college sticks than on the other events.
So let’s talk about those college sticks. A college stick occurs when a gymnast hasn’t stuck a landing but is close enough to sticking that she can pretend. Like a little skit. She won’t move for a quarter of a nanosecond after landing and then will step, turning to the side and saluting the judges mid-step, all in the same motion. Kind of like she’s just so bored by her own stick that she simply can’t stay there any longer and needs to salute. This is not a stick.
“That won’t fool the judges” is what the commentators often say, except it kind of will, because the NCAA judges are wimps. They’ll still deduct for a non-stuck landing but will typically take off .05 for any college stick, even if the step taken on said college stick would normally warrant .10.
To get hit with a landing-control deduction larger than .10, it typically takes a “bouncing back into the next state” kind of landing.
Landing short (for instance, not completing the full laid out flip on a Yurchenko full and coming into the mat with a piked angle in the hips and the chest too far forward) will be deducted in addition to the ensuing step, so gymnasts in those cases aren’t getting away with just the .05/.10 landing deduction.
That’s why you’ll see Yurchenko fulls with a step forward score lower than Yurchenko fulls with an equivalent-size step back. The vault with a step back was fully completed. The vault with a step forward was not completed fully and correctly because the gymnast came into the mat short, probably having to pike down and lose the layout shape. An extra deduction.
Piked shape and bent knees
Most vaults you see in NCAA will attempt a layout position. On those, the best will show a completely straight body shape, like a muscly little broomstick. Ideally, gymnasts will go even further than that and show an open shape with a little arch toward the end of the vault, going beyond the straight position just because they can, Shannon Miller-style.
You’ll hear about the best vaulters “flaring” a vault, which means they’re opening and extending their arms at the end to slow their rotation coming in for landing. This both looks pretty and also provides evidence of a gymnast who has more than enough time to complete her vault and land in a non-hunched-over shape. Goals.
Those who exhibit a closed hip angle—less than 180 degrees—on a layout vault will face a deduction. This is typically a small deduction, depending on the degree of the angle and when it occurs. If the pike is significant or present throughout the entire vault (not just coming in for landing), gymnasts will be docked for more than .05. When the chest is just a little bit forward on landing at the very end, that often escapes without a deduction. When you could eat a meal off your knees on landing, that’s when it becomes a major problem.
Piked vaults are held to a similarly strict shape standard, but in their case the requirement is showing a 90-degree hip angle instead of 180. Tucked vaults need to show less than a 90-degree hip angle and less than a 90-degree knee angle.
Both layout and piked vaults are expected to exhibit straight legs throughout, without any bent knees or hint of vestigial tucking. A “soft” or “mushy-legged” vault means the legs have a little bend in the knee throughout, which is typically a .05.
Height/amplitude tends to be evaluated more critically on vault than on the other events. Gymnasts need to show repulsion off the vaulting table (going UP and OUT, not just out) and need to complete the vault while still in a high position in the air. Otherwise, they’ll come in short and be in line for the landing deductions discussed above, as well as an amplitude deduction. Deductions don’t exist in a vacuum. One creates the next.
There is no specific height that gymnasts are expected to reach (because that would be too helpful). Instead, a vault that avoids an amplitude deduction is one where the entire vault, all necessary flipping and twisting, is completed with at least the chest, if not the entire body, above the height of the vaulting table. Then, as the gymnast passes the height of the vaulting table, all she has to do is prepare for landing.
The height deductions get quite intense for flat vaults that shoot out horizontally. These are not the little .05s we see for minor form breaks. They’re getting docked at least a tenth for height.
Meanwhile, “heighth” is not a word.
As mentioned above, vaults are expected to go both UP and OUT, so a vault that only goes up in height—and not out in distance—will be deducted with the same severity as a vault that only goes out, and not up.
Distance, too, is judged without a specific reference point, despite that being a really easy line to put on a vault mat if someone actually wanted to. Basically, gymnasts are expected not to look like they’re about to hit their heads on the vaulting table as they come down. At minimum, they need to be far enough away that it cannot physically happen. Ideally, a gymnast would at least be able to lie down flat on the vaulting mat between her landing position and the edge of the vaulting table, and have enough room to do that.
Gymnasts are expected to land in line with the center of the vaulting table, not deviating too far to either side. In elite, the vaulting mats have guidelines for the judges to be able to evaluate this. They do not in NCAA, once again because of helpfulness.
For that reason, the direction deduction is taken less frequently in NCAA than it should be, or would be if there were a specific guide on the mats. Vaults that start veering to one side or another, as long as it’s not too, too egregious, are still scoring really well. But technically, that should be a deduction.
Also on the topic of deductions that are not evaluated as harshly as they should be in NCAA gymnastics, leg separations on vault. The legs are supposed to be pasted together in the air on all vaults. To be deducted in college, however, it seems leg separations must occur in post-flight (after leaving the vaulting table) and be somewhat egregious and obvious—we’re seeing actual daylight between the legs—to get deducted.
A minor foot cross in the air will certainly be forgiven without deduction, as will straddled legs in pre-flight or on the table. We are presented with crazy-leg vaults from time to time in NCAA, and I don’t really see that getting deducted the way it should. Typically, the excuse is the position the judges are sitting, from which they cannot see straddled legs on the table.
A similar approach is taken to shoulder angles and bent elbows on the vaulting table. Those aren’t deducted in any noticeable way in and of themselves, though form errors like that typically manifest in a lack of amplitude and distance, which is where they will be penalized.
11 thoughts on “WTF is NCAA Scoring – Vault Edition”
Are gymnasts deducted if they flash one vault number and perform another? Say they intend to do a 1.5, but end up doing just a full, are they deducted for that?
no, because in ncaa you just flash the number of the vault family, not the actual vault.
Not anymore, which Spencer said here: “One change in NCAA for the 2019 season is that the athletes must flash the vault number they intend to perform, just as they do in elite. In the past, NCAA vaulters only had to flash the family number.”
One more general NCAA Scoring ‘Rule’ (and not just for vault):
For athletes on an SEC team, add another half tenth to each routine’s score.
Also, the bruin bump
>Also, the bruin bump
What? Do the Belmont Bruins even have a gymnastics team?
Surely you can’t mean the Mighty Bruins of Westwood?! They’re the best team in the west! They’re fighting on to victory to conquer all the rest.
I think Florida home scoring is a worse offender, actually. I still haven’t gotten over Murtry getting a 10 for a DTY with a noticable hop.
I always thought of the “flare” as the slight arch to show off that they are not piking down a layout – less to do with the arms.
“Flare” refers to the flaring out of the arms (arching your back isn’t ‘flaring’ in any literal sense). Though I think the back arch is a better sign of vault proficiency, so if you’re thinking of it in terms of “flair” then that would make more sense!
Yes Virginia (I mean Anon) there is a Santa Clause of 10’s – it is in Westwood.
Also most deductions are not taken for vaults that go beyond difficulty requirement. DTY for example.
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