I was reminded via DMs that I never did the third part. So…here’s the third part? (Part 1, Part 2)
Quite unusually, the beam final in Sydney was a chill and undramatic affair compared to the magma tsunami of controversies that marred most of the women’s event. The vault height embarrassment, Andreea Raducan’s cold medicine, and the Chinese age falsification were problems for another day. The beam final was just some gymnastics. No one even fell!
The two greatest individual stars of Sydney—Andreea Raducan and Svetlana Khorkina—both barely missed out on places in the final with 9.6s in qualification, and the absence of world silver medalist Raducan (as well as one of the strongest beamers of all time, Kui Yuanyuan, who was injured in qualification) opened the door for some unexpected medalists in what was largely a wide-open final.
The final became even more wide open when world champion and gold medal favorite, Ling Jie, did not receive her intended 10.0 start value. Ling had received a 10.0 start value in qualification, yet her exactly identical routine in the event final received just 9.90 (so perhaps the beam final was dramatic after all). The start value issue, coupled with a leg-up wobble on her beautiful back handspring + Onodi combination, spoiled what otherwise should have been the gold-winning routine.
Rather, it was her teammate Liu Xuan who took advantage to swoop in and snatch the Olympic title—despite originally qualifying in just 7th place—with her sublime Yang Bo, layout to two feet, and stuck double tuck. The only noteworthy error in the routine, a balance check on a stag ring, was not enough to derail her title hopes since all the competitors suffered something of that nature in their routines. Five out of the six judges agreed that Liu was the rightful champion, while the dissenting judge from Kazakhstan had Liu in 4th place behind Ekaterina Lobaznyuk, Elena Produnova, and Tatiana Yarosh—the three gymnasts from former Soviet republics, he says implying nothing at all.
Lobaznyuk did take her opportunity in the beam final to recover from the abject nightmare that was the team competition, in which she attempted a last-minute backup combination on beam and fell as part of a team-wide Russian meltdown that gave gold to the Romanians. In this instance, Lobaznyuk’s smooth and error-free routine, marred only by the casual day at Bondi Beach she took before her Arabian, was enough for silver.
The race for bronze proved close, with Produnova just barely edging out Claudia Presacan, probably exclusively on the strength of her dismount. Produnova stuck a remarkable double front to punctuate her routine, while Presacan stepped back on her simpler double back tuck despite working more solidly through the middle of her routine.
Tatiana Yarosh made an impressive save early in her routine, showing only a minimal adjustment when her entire foot slipped off the beam on a straddle jump, but it was enough of an error to keep her score down from the medal spots. Likewise Maria Olaru performed a routine free from truly major errors, one that might have contended for a medal in a more error-strewn final, but in this case she had enough form breaks to take herself down the standings.
Elise Ray ended up as the lone American to reach any event final in the Sydney women’s competition, only advancing to the final as the #9 qualifier after Yang Yun was eliminated by the 2-per-country rule. For Ray, however, a check on a punch front resulted in a missed combination, a 9.8 start value, and an 8th-place finish.
The foundational story of the 2004 beam final was that of absences. A number of the very best beam workers of the quadrennium missed out on the final, including world champion Fan Ye and world bronze medalist Liudmila Ezhova who both had shaky performances in qualification to doom their chances. Meanwhile, pre-meet gold contender Oana Ban finished 5th in qualification yet fell victim to the 2-per-country rule, placing behind her teammates Catalina Ponor and Alexandra Eremia. Ban might have been subbed into the beam final nonetheless (a Romanian team special), though an injury suffered later in the team competition eliminated the question and ended her Olympics prematurely.
Despite absences seeming to spell an up-for-grabs medal stand, the 2004 beam event turned out to be one of the least competitive beam finals ever in terms of the quest for medal positions. The top three clearly and obviously separated themselves from the remainder of the field.
That’s not to say the final was free of strife, however, with the race for gold between Catalina Ponor and Carly Patterson coming down to only the very slimmest of margins. Five of the six judges gave the duo identical scores, and only the judge from Argentina deemed Ponor the stronger performer, which cinched the medal order.
Ponor exemplified domination of the beam with an aggressive and speedy set free from wobbles, culminating in a stuck full-twisting double salto of…indistinct shape but nonetheless nailed. Patterson, too, was secure in her performance, showing the riskier individual elements—the standing Arabian and her eponymous double Arabian dismount—but she did not stick the Patterson dismount in the event final the way she did en route to the Olympic all-around title, taking a small hop that may just have spelled the difference between gold and silver.
Also causing strife was the lack of medal for Anna Pavlova, whose elegant routine full of dramatic and original combinations established her as a crowd favorite, but a large wobble on her full-twisting back handspring meant it was truly impossible to award her the bronze medal over the more secure and also rather impeccable routine from Romania’s Alexandra Eremia.
The remaining four finalists finished well back. Both Chinese athletes had the talent to win medals in this final, but falls doomed both Li Ya and Zhang Nan, with Li coming up short on a punch front and Zhang falling on her challenging round-off layout stepout mount (and then going on to perform a nearly spotless routine after that, because of course). A fall at a compositionally critical moment took Allana Slater far out of contention, while Courtney Kupets was doomed by a parade of wobbles and checks. Errors like these kept most of the competitors in this—one of the rougher Olympic beam finals of all time—from having any shot at hardware.
Beijing ushered in one of the most drastic changes ever made to Olympic gymnastics—the introduction of open-ended scoring, with an uncapped difficulty score added to a maximum-10 execution score to arrive at the final total. Everyone was and continues to be fine with that, and it causes no controversy at all.
The mutation in routine composition was dramatic. Athletes were now required to count the 10 most difficult elements in each routine, meaning even the hyper-difficult, medal-winning performances from Ponor and Patterson in the 2004 beam final would have been rendered non-competitive at the 2008 Olympics because of a lack of difficult leaps and turns to pad out the repertoire of 10 counting elements.
The change in system allowed the very top athletes to rack up huge difficulty scores and remain competitive even with mistakes in their routines, a scenario that ultimately exacerbated the distance between the haves and the have-nots. This was illuminated in beam qualification, where the top 11 athletes all came from just three countries—the United States, China, and Russia. This meant that 5 athletes (Alicia Sacramone, Ksenia Semyonova, Deng Linlin, Bridget Sloan, and Yang Yilin) all had to be skipped over via the 2-per-country rule to get to Gabriela Dragoi in 12th place and Koko Tsurumi in 13th place to round out the collection of 8 gymnasts needed for the beam final.
Sacramone finished 4th in qualification, just .025 behind finalists Liukin and Johnson and very nearly scored a major upset in keeping the eventual Olympic beam champion Johnson out of the final (Johnson would have lost the tiebreak with Liukin because of her lower execution score), but Sacramone was not awarded her intended difficulty score in qualification due to slow connections, including out of her front pike mount—the element that would prove her undoing in the team final a few days later. The 2008 beam final very nearly had a quite different complexion.
The race for the second Russian spot in the final proved even closer, however, with Ksenia Afanasyeva tying her Ksenia in crime Ksenia Semyonova on both difficulty and execution scores and getting into the final only on a third tiebreak.
Yet even with the changes in the code of points and greater forgiveness for mistakes, it was still not possible to win an Olympic event title with a fall, as gold favorite and top qualifier Li Shanshan learned when she veered wildly off line and fell on a full-twisting swingdown, ultimately finishing in 6th place.
Really the only gymnast who could hope to match Li on difficulty was Johnson, who suffered no such error, performing as securely as she always did to earn her highest beam score of the entire Olympics in the event final. Johnson was never going to have the very best execution score on beam, the result of deductions for back-leg height and chest position, but her performance in the beam final reflected improvements in those regards to earn that higher score and the gold medal, becoming the second Olympic beam champion from the United States.
Johnson ultimately recorded the second-best execution score of the final—a major accomplishment for her in and of itself—with only her teammate and all-around champion Nastia Liukin receiving a higher execution mark. Liukin’s routine was pristine, with exceptional positions and an absence of wobbles, but she did not have the difficulty to match Johnson and would have needed Johnson to make some small errors. That didn’t happen, and Johnson took the gold by two tenths overall.
The great heartbreak of the 2008 beam final may belong to Anna Pavlova, who finished fourth for the second consecutive Olympics, this time coming even closer to medal glory with just half a tenth separating her from bronze medalist Cheng Fei. While Pavlova didn’t really have a convincing argument for deserving a medal in 2004 because of a clear error in her routine, the same was not true in 2008, where a large break from Cheng on her full-twisting back tuck left lingering questions as to why her execution score still ended up higher than Pavlova’s.
The judges themselves were split on which athlete deserved the bronze medal, with three judges (Greece, South Korea, and Luxembourg) giving the higher score to Pavlova, and the other three judges (Germany, Great Britain, and Israel) giving it to Cheng.
The remaining athletes didn’t have much of a case to challenge Cheng and Pavlova as part of the bronze drama. Gabriela Dragoi’s great success was making it to the final at all—and she truly pulled out the best routine she could have hoped for on the day—but her difficulty score of 6.5 was three tenths lower than Pavlova and Cheng to begin with, keeping her in a hole compared to the medal contenders.
Meanwhile, Ksenia Afanasyeva’s story was one of broken connections. She didn’t make any individually huge mistakes, but hesitations left her with a difficulty score 8 tenths lower than she received in qualification, the exact same amount as the penalty for falling. Meanwhile Koko Tsurumi—the first Olympic beam finalist from Japan since Keiko Ikeda’s back-to-back ventures in ’60 and ’64—fell on a side somi after a valiant interpretive leg dance to try to stay on, taking her out of contention.
Following 2008, a rule adjustment allowed gymnasts to count their 8 most difficult elements instead of 10, which had some effect on routine composition in freeing the gymnasts from having to pad out their routines by shoving in so many mid-difficultly elements, but the overall themes from 2008 largely continued in 2012. The usual suspects remained the usual suspects, with the top 14 gymnasts in qualification all coming from China, Russia, the United States, and Romania.
Qualification may have been somewhat predictable in its national demographics, but that doesn’t mean it was free from drama. Echoing the Sacramone situation of 2008, American Kyla Ross was eliminated from the final by the 2-per-country rule after finishing just .025 behind her teammate and the eventual bronze medalist Aly Raisman.
World beam silver medalist Yao Jinnan had a nightmare in qualification to miss the finals entirely, and world beam bronze medalist Jordyn Wieber introduced a controversial combination into her routine in 2012—a front walkover to full-twisting back tuck to balk walkover—which was (predictably) not given full credit by the judging panel and sent Wieber to 4th place among the Americans.
The most significant qualification development, however, took place among the Romanians. In a surprise, Diana Bulimar qualified ahead of her more heralded, medal contending teammate Larisa Iordache. Yet before the final, Bulimar was pulled from the competition and replaced by Iordache because Iordache was accurately perceived to have the more likely chance at a medal. In the final itself, however, Iordache had a gigantic break on her full-twisting back tuck that caused her to dance around the edge of the beam for a short century trying to save it, taking her out of medal contention.
Ultimately, the 2012 beam final featured a dominant display by the Chinese, with Deng Linlin and Sui Lu comfortably separating themselves from the rest of the competitors with the most secure routines in the final—as well as the most difficult. Even though they separated themselves from the competition, separating Deng and Sui’s routines from one another proved a more difficult task. The gold decision came down solely to which athlete got credit for which attempted combinations, and ultimately it was Deng—who had missed the final four years previously because of 2-per-country—receiving one tenth more in difficulty than Sui, accounting for the entirety of the margin of victory.
The Deng victory was impressive but also provided the catalyst for a judging adjustment in subsequent years. Deng’s routine largely featured her doing an impressive element, then walking backwards to do another, then walking backwards to do another, lacking the flow and continuous choreographic movement of beam of old. In reaction to the pervasiveness of routines like Deng’s over the course of the 2009-2012 quadrennium, 2013 brought with it a stricter evaluation of pauses, rhythm, and choreographic composition of routines.
Several athletes in the final might have challenged the Chinese gymnasts for gold/silver had things gone differently, but #3 qualifier and all-around champion Gabby Douglas showed her first true break of the Olympics in the beam final with a dramatic mistake, missing her foot on a switch 1/2 and hobbling back until she found herself hanging upside down under the beam. Meanwhile, #2 qualifier and all-around silver medalist Viktoria Komova was tense from the very start and ended up with a two-fall performance to send her to last place.
Their mistakes opened up a final spot on the medal stand for a number of possible athletes, and the race for that bronze gave the 2012 final its true defining moment. The 2004 champion Catalina Ponor had a dramatic error of her own (a theme of this final), suffering a large break on a full-twisting back handspring that forced her to model walk halfway down the beam to save a fall. But save a fall she did, ultimately settling her with a total of 15.066 and a difficulty score of 6.6, which had her in third place with one competitor remaining—Aly Raisman.
Raisman suffered some balance errors in her own set, as well as a pair of borderline connection hesitations (neither of which she received credit for). Because of those issues, her score came in at 14.966 with a difficulty score of 6.2, putting her in 4th place and giving Ponor the bronze. Raisman, however, submitted an inquiry on the difficulty score of her routine, and after review, the panel determined that one of those borderline connections should have received credit, bumping her difficulty up to 6.3 and her total score up to 15.066—tied with Ponor.
Raisman was no stranger to finishing in a tie in 2012. Several days before, she had fallen victim to a much-maligned tiebreaking rule in the all-around final in which the low score of the four routines was dropped to determine which athlete would place higher (essentially meaning that the winner of the tiebreak was the one with the single weakest routine, because of making sense). That tiebreak put Raisman into 4th place in the all-around final, behind Aliya Mustafina with whom she had tied.
In event finals, however, a more reasonable tiebreak was used, with the decision going to the gymnast with the stronger execution score. Neither Raisman nor Ponor was ever exactly known for her pristine execution on beam, but in this case it was Raisman’s lack of large error that allowed her to triumph on execution despite Ponor’s higher difficulty score.
Meanwhile, Ksenia Afanasyeva defied the odds to appear in her second straight Olympic beam final in 2012, meaning if I were writing this about the 1950s, I would assume she was a magnificent beam specialist based only on that information. But for any future historians looking back on this moment, Afanasyeva was not a beam specialist. Her best event was floor, and how she made two Olympic beam finals remains her greatest unsolved magic trick.
Rio de Janeiro 2016
In the Olympics of Simone Biles, she had been more or less preordained to win five gold medals because of no chill anywhere ever, but this expectation largely ignored the fact that beam is beam.
Biles qualified to the beam final in the top position and would have won the gold medal in this final with one of her strongest routines, but a short landing on a punch front forced her to slip backwards and grab the beam, a major deduction that took her out of realistic contention for gold. It was Biles’ difficulty—as well as a shaky final overall from the other competitors—that allowed her to hang on for bronze even with a major mistake.
It’s worth noting, however, that a Biles victory would not have been a guarantee even without that one error. She had a couple other hesitations and broken connections that may have put her below the routine from Sanne Wevers even if Biles hadn’t grabbed the beam. It would have been close.
As it was, turn queen Sanne Wevers used her supreme ease with combinations of spinning elements to snatch the highest difficulty score of the final, and without any significant errors to speak of in her routine, she soared right to the top spot. In Rio, Wevers became not only the first Dutch woman ever to reach an Olympic beam final (let alone win it) but also proved that there was room to be successful with contrasting styles and a diversity of composition approaches in 2010s gymnastics. Wevers won while eschewing the high-value acrobatic elements that most gymnasts relied on to build up their difficulty scores. The one who defeated the ever-dominant Americans didn’t do it by beating them at their own game but by developing her own game and then being the best at it.
The only gymnast who came close to challenging Wevers was the other American in the final, Laurie Hernandez, who performed her own extremely solid and beautifully extended routine to earn the highest execution score of the day. That feat got her close to Wevers, but with Wevers pulling out the most difficult option from her Mary Poppins bag of possible beam compositions in the final, Hernandez’s set 6.4 difficulty was not quite enough to take the top spot despite her performing as well as she could have hoped in the final.
Wevers and Hernandez were the clear class of the 2016 beam final, though there were others (in addition to Biles) who might have caught them on a different day. Missing the final entirely were Gabby Douglas and defending Olympic bronze medalist Aly Raisman, who were subject to 2-per-country after tying for 7th in qualification, yet ranking as just the 3rd and 4th Americans. China’s Shang Chunsong was also a likely medal pick heading in but finished just 17th in qualification in controversial fashion for a routine without major issues, while 2015 world bronze medalist Pauline Schaefer of Germany had a major error on her eponymous side somi with 1/2 twist in qualification to just barely miss out.
Within the final itself, legitimate medal contenders Fan Yilin and Flavia Saraiva were both done in by the same skill—their best skill—a layout to two feet. Saraiva competed last in the final and had the opportunity to pass Biles for bronze with a hit routine, but the huge break on her layout took away that possibility.
The 2004 Olympic champion Catalina Ponor reached her third Olympic beam final in Rio, becoming just the second athlete in history to accomplish that feat, joining the great Vera Caslavska, who competed in the first three Olympic beam event finals ever contested—1960, 1964, and 1968. In this case, a critical broken connection on an Onodi and a couple larger checks kept Ponor from contending the way she had in her previous finals.
Like Wevers, the participation of Isabela Onyshko of Canada and Marine Boyer of France in this final marked the first time athletes from their respective countries ever reached an Olympic beam final, freeing this final from the nationality monotony of the previous two Olympics. While a fall on a back tuck full kept Onyshko from contention, Boyer came very close to winning a medal, hitting fairly well in the final with a few checks, but lacking the huge difficulty score or precision to pass Biles.
40 thoughts on “Olympic Beam Finals: A History, Part 3 (2000-2016)”
Deng Linlin absolutely deserved gold over Sui Lu for executing her elements ever so slightly better on the day, her pause-y style of performance wasn’t that much difference from other beamers from that quad or the quad prior, and if all the new rhythm and pause deductions are going to give us is the jittery pace with undefined shape elements such as Kara Eaker’s routine, I will gladly have Deng’s routine or Lobaznyuk’s Roman Empire-length pause before her Arabian back because otherwise they looked better. THE END. Justice 4 DLL.
I agree! Deng gets a lot of grief over winning over Sui but I don’t see how you call her performance style out without calling out most of the other finalists for the same issues. I’ll take dengs commanding and precise but slightly pausey gymnastics over raismans sloppy and choppy movements any day. Deng definitely deserved her gold!
The FIG cannot demand a never-stopping always-flowing routine and then expect gymnasts to nail difficult acrobatic and dance skills. Even the small foot shift that most gymnasts do before their dismounts are deducted one tenth. In order to do hard skills, you need to physically stop and center your balance. Going immediately into a tough skill with no prep time is asking for a disaster.
Same thing with floor. Gymnasts have always been able to pause and center themselves before their tumbling passes. Forcing gymnasts into that stupid face the corner-do an arm wave-then pivot on one foot and start running doesn’t offer anything to the sport.
For God’s sake FIG please let gymnasts take a second to get themselves ready for their death-defying acrobatics. Standing for a couple seconds has always been permitted and doesn’t affect artistry in anyway. In fact, I think one of the reasons we’ve seen such inconsistency on beam this quad is because very few people can get settled with their routines. It’s hard enough landing 8 skills on a 4 inch plank of wood without having to fill the remainder of the 90 seconds with nonstop choreography and movement.
Look at other sports. We don’t require golfers to swing immediately upon reaching the golf ball and we don’t make basketball players shoot free throws immediately after receiving the basketball from the ref. The reason is because you need time for your brain to process the skill you’re about to do. You can’t fully prepare yourself if you’re moving immediately before performing the skill.
While I don’t mind that Deng received the top score on the day, I absolutely mind her “style.” Her competition routines look like practice – executing beautiful skills with nothing but steps and preps in between. I find her painful to watch, even more than most from that quad. I’ll take fluid choreography, grace, care around presentation with imperfect ring positions over Deng’s beam any day.
I feel like this is the beam version of the floor choreography debate. It really seems to come down to why a fan / viewer is drawn to gymnastics. What one considers as merely imperfect body shape can be viewed as extremely distracting and unpleasing to watch by another.
I personally love precision and technique. I don’t enjoy watching Eaker’s beam routine because her poorly executed leaps are distracting no matter how fluid her choreography is — in the same way that I also don’t enjoy watching Brooklyn Moors on floor as her form breaks are equally distracting regardless how well she emotes the choreography.
Does this have to be a bad thing though? Shouldn’t it be okay for fans to gravitate towards different aspects of this sport?
I have a hard time letting the “different preferences” thing go, since to me the “imperfect ring positions” = objectively not doing the required assignment and yet getting full credit, while “painful to watch” = subjectively not performing to your personal standards.
If you’d rather watch Kara do a 5.4 routine than Deng do a 6.4 routine, that I can understand even if I myself prefer Deng’s style. But when people argued after 2019 QF that Kara should get her attempted D-score when she’s not actually doing the elements, because her “movement quality” is nice, it kinda makes me rage. If people think the beam COP should reflect more priority of subjective aesthetic qualities, okay, but arguing that scoring should be applied inconsistently to reward some gymnasts’ aesthetics is, IMO, messed up. (@Original commenter – I know you didn’t say that, you just talked about your taste!)
I like Sui Lu a bit better than DLL but more importantly I’d like to register my support for precise, correct beam skills over messy ones with awkward dancing or choreography in between.
Beam choreography is so, so cringey 90% of the time anyway. I appreciate the all-business style.
It’s cringey because there’s really not much more you can do other than arm waves with fancy hands and the compulsory chest to the beam move. We have to remember that gymnasts are trying to retain balance all throughout the routine – not just acrobatic or dance elements. The laws of gravity still exist during choreography. Flavia Saraiva learned that lesson the hard way when she fell during a sideways walk (not side somi – she was literaly walking sideways).
The things that people love and consider artistic on beam, including full turning handstands in stag position, scales, long press handstand and planche mounts etc.) don’t fit into current routines due to the chance for deductions and time constraints.
^^^^ It’s so hard to pack in so many skills while also including these beautiful moves that don’t give any extra difficulty points but we all love to see and view as more original and “artistic”. But I think there are definitely a lot of gymnasts these days who demonstrate a different type of “artistry” in the sense of fluid, graceful movements like Kara Eaker, Tang Xijing, and Ou Yushan. They move beautifully and gracefully, and while they may not necessarily be doing the “artistic” skills that we all love, when they’re performing you never feel like they’re just going through the motions of their practiced choreography the way it’s so obvious that other gymnasts are just doing “choreo” they do in pratice. For the most artistic gymnasts today, their beam work just has that very natural and graceful “feel”
I guess I just mean that I would prefer a gymnast do nothing rather than three stiff arm circles and tipping their knee to one side, or Simone’s shimmies or whatever. It doesn’t bother me as much if someone does hard tricks and just walks between them.
Kara’s choreo isn’t my favorite either to be honest – it seems like a lot of awkward sashaying. In theory I appreciate the effort, but said effort is already SO overappreciated by fans and judges that I don’t feel the need to applaud her either.
I wish so hard that Ross had been in that 2012 final over Raisman. I don’t like watching Raisman on beam. Most of her skills just do not look nice.
Ross so could’ve taken the bronze with a normal hit! It would’ve been nice having all of the Fierce 5 take home an individual medal along with team gold. The 2012 is probably my favorite team of the 2000s.
Ksenia Afanasyeva may not have been a beam specialist, but she was a beautiful beam worker with an elegant and pretty-looking routine at a time when very few beam routines were elegant and pretty. I can totally see why she made two Olympic beam finals.
I hope Beckermann’s open letter about Val Kondos gets its moment in the sun from BBS.
waiting to see if jessica still thinks calling out an abusive coach’s disgusting actions is a “conflict of interest”
If the Washington Post can report on Amazon despite being owned by Jeff Bezos, then Jessica can report on UCLA despite being owned by Val.
It’s hard to be objective about Miss Val when your head is up her ass.
Pretty much. Jessica says “conflict of interest” but what she really means is “I don’t want to say anything critical of my friend because she might get mad at me and I don’t want to lose this well-connected friend”
I love taking a look back at these competitions. In 2008, I always thought Pavlova was robbed of the bronze. Cheng Fei was overscored on execution.
In 2004, Ponor and Patterson were so close. I thought it could have gone either way. When that’s the case, I don’t really quibble with the results.
In 2012, I thought Deng Linlin was the slightly better of the two. Sui Lu wasn’t very congratulatory to Deng after she was bested by her. She cried and cried and was hanging on her coaches. I’m sure she was disappointed, but I was surprised at her poor sportsmanship, especially to her own teammate.
In 2016, Simone Biles was VERY lucky that beam was enough of a splat-fest for her high difficulty to carry her to bronze. Wevers really stood out to me that year. The originality of her–as Spencer has called it in the past–“spinny beam” was so refreshing, and she executed it with nary a wobble.
Honestly it’s refreshing to see people not patting Sui Lu on her head about her behaviour over losing. Sure missing gold by so little is disappointing but also you still medalled and she is your teammate?? It was unbecoming.
Out of all the disappointed silvers and 4th placers of London (why were there so many??), Sui Lu gets by far the least criticism despite her attitude being basically the worst one. It’s kind of weird.
Why should she smile when she was cheated? Don’t be ignorant of what a gold medal means for a gymnast from China vs the rest of the world.
Shut up ❤️
(The above was me, directed at “Laureant”, being lowkey racist and factually incorrect about gymnastics. Shut up ❤️)
Fuck off!~ She is allowed to feel what she feels! Instead of being a robotic gymnast! Plus it was 8 years ago, like should people really be revisiting her honest emotions of how she felt because you felt it was the buzz word de jour “problematic?” Did she slap her face? Punch her in the gut? Oh my, something she wanted for so long didn’t happen – HOW DARE SHE CRY. Smile, we all get medals!
You shut up too, everyone hates you 💕
You’re the best Spencer! Thanks for another great gymnastics history article!
Somehow I had it burned into my brain that Elise Ray fell in that beam final. This was such a fun read!
A few comments regarding Ling’s Beam:
– Under the 1997-2000 COP, a skill or connection did not receive bonus if the gymnast incurred 0.2 or more in deductions while performing it. Ling’s balance error would have been enough to receive 0.2 in deductions.
– Ling’s routine started exactly from a 10.0 as follows:
front tuck + beat jump (D + A), 0.1 (one D was required and wasn’t eligible for bonus)
wolf jump + Rulfova (B + D), 0.3
bhs + Onodi (B + D), 0.2
switch leap + ring stag jump (C + C), 0.2
cat leap + switch wolf jump + bhs 1/2 (A + B + C), 0.1
bhs + bhs + gainered double full (D), 0.1 (Under the repetition rules of this COP, this dismount series earns no connection bonus. This is why you saw gymnasts like Atler doing two back handspring stepouts into her layout to two feet, and then a round off + back handspring to two feet into her dismount.)
Total Bonus – 1.0
– How do the judges get to a 9.9 SV? Although the Onodi isn’t eligible for bonus due to the balance check, she can still count it as a required D. Now, her front tuck + beat jump combo would earn 0.2, rather than 0.1, giving her a total of 0.9 bonus.
Was the Onodi devalued in a revision after 1997? The version I have shows that an Onodi is an E
There were two Onodi-type elements in the COP. 7.402 (jump backward 1/2 turn / flic-flac take off to walkover forward) and 7.502 ((jump backward 1/2 turn / flic-flac take off to handspring forward).
However, Onodi never actually performed the E version of the skill because her foot touches the beam slightly before/in-time with when her hands come off the beam, rather than having a moment of flight where there is no support on the beam as you would in a true front handspring. Ling also performs the skill this way.
Hold up regarding Ponor’s and Patterson’s 2004 routines not being competitive in Beijing. With two connected jumps and literally zero other changes, they would have started from at least 6.7 and 6.8, respectively; and that’s with each one counting an A and a B skill. (IIRC the spin had to count among the top 10 but I could be wrong.)
Onodi + flic + LOSO = DBC+0.2 (easier than her Athens opener btw)
switch + Kochetkova = CD+0.1
aerial + flic + pike(?) back = D(B)C+0.2
full spin = A
**split jump + other jump**
Omelianchik = D
full in = G
3.7 DV + 2.5 EGR + 0.5 CV
6.7 (or 6.9 if credited with a back layout)
Arabian = F
aerial + flic + LOSO = DBC+0.2
front tuck + sheep = DD+0.1
switch + tuck back = CC+0.1
full turn = A
Patterson in combo = G+0.2
3.7 DV + 2.5 EGR + 0.6 CV
For Ponor :
– I think your math is off on the DV. She has 1 x G, 4 x D, 3 x C, 1 x B, and 1 x A (because of the turn being required to count), which puts her at 3.5 DV.
– The skill as performed in Athens would not have gotten layout credit, though she later proved it was something she could do.
For Patterson :
– This was the quad that the rules on sheep jumps became extremely strict, and I could see hers getting downgraded.
Sui Lu was blatantly cheated out of gold.
possible 2020 meets
I agree! Jessica needs to make a stand! She can’t have it both ways! She would be BLASTING any other coach for those actions!
I also learned from another podcast that Jessica knew the contents of the letter Alyssa send to Ms Val YEARS ago. Another journalist had a lengthy phone conversation with Alyssa at that time, where she revealed to him the same contents of her last letter.
This journalist made Jessica aware of this “Ms Val damning” issue of Alyssa’s so she could do with it what she wished.
We now know what she chose.
SAY IT AIN’T SO, JESS, SAY IT AIN’T SO!
You guys are idiots! Acting as if Miss Val committed some horrible sin, up to the level of sexual abuse! She acted like a bitch, shocker… now destroy her? The hypocrisy and misogyny (yes even from women on her) how easy you can go after Jessica, and Miss Val to such an evil degree as if it happened to you. Yeah, the whole ‘they eat their own’ fits perfectly. Idiots.
What didn’t Ling Jie get credit for? Looked good to me.
Under this COP a skill or connection did not earn bonus if it incurred 0.2 or more in deductions. Ling’s error on the Onodi would have been considered a medium error, meeting the 0.2 deduction threshold.
Flavia Saraiva was also the first Brazilian gymnast to reach a beam final at Olympic Games. Jade Barbosa had the chance to be the one to do that in 2008, but had a fall in qualificantions. However, Jade was the first Brazilian to reach a beam final in a World Championships. She did that in 2007.
*I meant “qualifications”.
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