2021 Regionals Preview – Who’s in Danger? Part 2

The big news of the day is Auburn’s withdrawal from regionals due to COVID issues, ending Auburn’s season and rendering moot the discussion of the very important Auburn/Missouri clash from yesterday‘s preview.

This means Oklahoma and Missouri will now have to defeat only the winner of the Eastern Michigan/Maryland play-in in order to advance to the regional final. It also makes the two semifinals at this site even more comically lopsided than they were before as Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, and Iowa State all still have to be in the other semifinal together.

Just two normal semifinals..

The NCAA won’t redo brackets if the withdrawal happens more than 24 hours after they are made…

…but I’m sure if you gave Iowa the choice, they would be like, “Yes, please, yes, we will somehow manage the extreme burden of competing at a different time and starting on a different event in order to be in that session instead.”

Also, having a play-in at this site is now exceptionally hilarious as a concept since there’s just going to be an open spot in that semifinal. “Hi, we would rather have nothing than you. Go home now.”

Anyway, what were we actually talking about today? Ah yes chocolate.

Which top eight teams are in danger of not advancing to nationals. If the performances of the top teams from conference championships taught us anything, it’s that…sort of everyone is in danger. End of post.

Minnesota or Denver?

Georgia RegionalFlorida, Minnesota, Denver, Illinois, Georgia, Oregon State, Central Michigan, NC State, Western Michigan

Assuming things end up going to plan in the semifinals and no one gets Georgia’d, Florida, Minnesota, and Denver will all walk into the regional final with only two teams able to make nationals.

Let’s start with Florida, the clearest favorite to make it out of this regional. Still, Florida does have to put that SEC Championship performance away in order to advance. Both Minnesota and Denver have NQSs this season far higher than Florida’s score from that meet. They would view a 196.975 as beatable child’s play in a regional final.

Trinity Thomas adding back more events in the weeks since SECs would obviously help a ton, but it’s worth noting that Florida’s biggest issue at SECs was bars, the one event Thomas ended up competing. Florida needs to resolve whether Baumann is the actual right choice for the bars lineup or, after two straight falls, whether the delightfulness of the story of her finally getting into the bars lineup is overshadowing the actual best six. Florida will also need to determine what’s up with Payton Richards after her three-fall performance at SECs. Aberration or thing? That issue is most significant on vault where you have to KNOW whether she can actually hit a Y1.5 now that we’re in an elimination context.

If I’m Florida, I put up all the necessary Baumann and Richards routines in the semifinal (a session where a repeat of SECs would still advance comfortably), and then if they don’t have good routines, they’re out for the final. The biggest benefit of the cushy semifinal draws the top teams have is that they basically get another experimentation meet the day before things get real.

But as long as Florida can resolve those issues, it should be smooth sailing to nationals. Basically, I’m just wasting a lot of time on Florida because when it gets to the presumed Minnesota/Denver clash for the second advancing spot, it’s sort of…your guess is as good as mine? Shrug? 50/50? These teams are so close that it’s going to be whoever sticks more on the day and there’s no sensibly predicting one or the other.

I am, however, eager to see how Denver’s lineups shape up. At the conference championship, Denver was without Rylie Mundell and Alexis Vasquez—particularly significant because I would characterize Denver’s two biggest disadvantages right now compared to Minnesota as 1) a lack of Yurchenko 1.5s and 2) Lexy Ramler. Mundell can add another 1.5 to the vault lineup to keep Denver closer there—even though the clearest edge either team has on any event is Minnesota’s greater number of Y1.5s—and Vasquez can score like Lexy Ramler on beam, potentially blunting another of Minnesota’s juiciest advantages. If they’re back in the lineups.

With people like Ramler and Lynnzee Brown trading 9.950s, so much of this will come down to early-order competitors. It’s interesting that one of Denver’s classic issues has been a lack of depth, with a couple 9.750s peppering the beginning of lineups. This year, however, that applies much more to Minnesota, which hasto put up a couple “we definitely want to drop this” gymnasts in the first or second spots. When it comes to trying to beat Denver, Minnesota is not going to be able to afford that “bars fall in the 4th spot that means you have to count a leadoff 9.750” because it’s just too close.

UCLA, What Are You About?

West Virginia RegionalMichigan, Cal, BYU, UCLA, Ohio State, Towson, Kent State, Penn State, West Virginia

The based-on-everything expectation is that Michigan, Cal, BYU, and UCLA will all advance to the regional final in West Virginia. But then what happens?

We definitely need a score comparison to clarify some of the issues at play.

[4] Michigan
VT NQS – 49.631 [1]
UB NQS – 49.494 [2]
BB NQS – 49.488 [1]

FX NQS – 49.406 [4]
Road Avg – 197.731 [1]
Last Meet – 197.425 [1]
[5] Cal
VT NQS – 49.306 [3]
UB NQS – 49.606 [1]
BB NQS – 49.394 [2]
FX NQS – 49.475 [1]
Road Avg – 197.045 [2]
Last Meet – 197.375 [2]
[12] BYU
VT NQS – 49.181 [4]
UB NQS – 49.363 [4]
BB NQS – 49.319 [3]
FX NQS – 49.444 [3]
Road Avg – 196.481 [4]
Last Meet – 196.925
[13] UCLA
VT NQS – 49.338 [2]
UB NQS – 49.369 [3]
BB NQS – 49.225 [4]
FX NQS – 49.475 [1]
Road Avg – 196.625 [3]
Last Meet – 196.725

Michigan is the weakest-ranked team in this group on floor, but one of the best arguments in Michigan’s favor is that “what if floor goes poorly?” already happened at Big Tens and the team still got 197.425, a score that I think will be high enough to make nationals out of this group. BYU and UCLA have not scored that high all season.

Nor has either scored as high as Cal’s 197.375 from Pac-12s. Cal has been extremely consistent in its road performances this season. You know you’re going to get that low-mid 197 from them, which should be enough here. We haven’t seen the other teams show mid-197 gymnastics at any point this season.

But an additional issue illustrated here is that if UCLA actually figures out beam, this thing could get close. Exactly that would have happened at Pac-12s if UCLA had hit beam, where a 9.850 from Sakti would have seen UCLA squeak ahead of Cal in the final standings. Now, that equivalence is also reliant on circumstances playing out exactly as they did, with Cal having semi-meh vault and beam while UCLA gets the scores and routines it got again (are you getting that stick from Wright every time?), but it’s within the believable realm. And if Michigan has even a minor break, Michigan would be right there with them around the same scores.

For BYU, the scoring comparison shows that there’s not one single event the team can lean on to stake its claim to competitiveness in this group, the way UCLA has a couple apparatuses where it ranks in the top two. BYU has been very steadily 196.9 recently and would basically need to do that again and then hope the other teams have their little checks and breaks to come down ever so slightly into the 196s.

Is Alabama Good Now?

Alabama RegionalOklahoma, Alabama, Arkansas, Iowa, Iowa State, Missouri, Eastern Michigan, Maryland

The withdrawal of Auburn probably doesn’t alter expectations for the regional final too much here because Auburn would not have been expected to end up in the top two. A victory would have been making their seeding and advancing to the regional final.

Like Florida, Oklahoma is heavily favored to advance from this regional but does have some issues to work out to make sure that is definitely definite. Oklahoma’s 197.1 from the Big 12 Championship is an attainable score for both Alabama and Arkansas and almost wasn’t enough to beat Iowa State in that very meet. It can’t be repeated in an elimination context.

Most of Oklahoma’s potential to improve on the scores of the recent couple meets will be based on who can get back into lineups at the very last second. Getting Audrey Davis on more events would be a thing—particularly on vault where she would provide a sixth countable score in case someone falls, which happened last time. The primary vulnerability in recent results, however, has been floor, where Oklahoma has simply not been able to use anywhere near the ideal six you would come up with when glancing at this roster. Getting Trautman back on FX may be too much to ask because it has been so, so long, but perhaps getting Ragan Smith back in there would do critical work in eliminating a possible 9.6 from having to count.

It’s all about the depth. The more medium-backup routines you have in there, the more likely a few of them are going to have to count, and then oops you lost to Denver.

Much of the focus of this regional has been on the Alabama semifinal because it’s such a strong group, but once we get to the final, there’s probably only one spot left for any of those teams to join Oklahoma at nationals. If Alabama is able to recreate the performance we saw at SECs, the fight might not be that interesting after all—suddenly rendering this terror regional among the most straightforward once we get to Saturday.

But that is incumbent upon Alabama continuing to perform at that level. And we’ve seen that…not happen this season as well. We’ve seen the 10.0 start parade go awry on vault. We’ve seen the beam falls. We’ve seen 9.7-level floor work to start that rotation. None of that is going to cut it, either in the semifinal or the final. Arkansas’s floor rotation would not let that stand, and pre-SECs, this Alabama vs. Arkansas issue would have been considered a much closer prospect. It could every well go back to that place.

But it’s up to Alabama whether it does. Which Alabama shows up is the single most significant factor at this regional.

Is This a Trick?

Utah Regional LSU, Utah, Arizona State, Kentucky, Boise State, Southern Utah, Utah State, Temple, Arizona

This is the regional the top seeds all really wanted and presents the most straightforward elimination arrangement right through the regional final. But is that actually going to happen?

[3] LSU
VT NQS – 49.600 [1]
UB NQS – 49.456 [1]
BB NQS – 49.444 [2]
FX NQS – 49.513 [1]
Road Avg – 197.345 [1]
Last Meet – 197.775 [1]
[6] Utah
VT NQS – 49.356 [2]
UB NQS – 49.294 [3]
BB NQS – 49.588 [1]
FX NQS – 49.500 [2]
Home Avg – 197.285 [2]
Last Meet – 197.725 [2]
[11] Arizona State
VT NQS – 49.269 [3]
UB NQS – 49.338 [2]
BB NQS – 49.206 [4]
FX NQS – 49.375 [3]
Road Avg – 196.242 [4]
Last Meet – 196.375
[14] Kentucky
VT NQS – 49.269 [3]
UB NQS – 49.275 [4]
BB NQS – 49.281 [3]
FX NQS – 49.288 [4]
Road Avg – 196.440 [3]
Last Meet – 196.825

I mean probably? LSU and Utah have a significant scoring advantage over everyone else here, save for the slight blip on bars where Arizona State ranks ahead of Utah, and if recent meets are any indication, both top seeds should sail through. Which is the jinx of all jinxes, I’m sure.

But it would take errors. Things would have to go wrong because both LSU and Utah have multi-event buffers over the rest of the teams, buffers that should make up for little issues or some events not being at their very best.

18 thoughts on “2021 Regionals Preview – Who’s in Danger? Part 2”

  1. If Auburn has withdrawn because of COVID, why not just put E. Michigan and Maryland directly into the draw. instead of a play-in match?

  2. Surprised their not doing more of a bubble format like the basketball tourneys. Could see a lot of teams pull out in different rounds.

    1. If they did a bubble, they would likely just cut the number of teams down to just have nationals. 16 teams in Dallas — Friday would be 4 quads, 1 team advances from each quad, and Sunday would be a 4 team nationals.

      A bubble wouldn’t make too much sense with regionals and then two weeks later, nationals. Teams would essentially be there over 3 weeks to compete 3 times (fly in a week before competition for quarantine/testing, compete in regionals, two week break, then nationals). That’s a huge hotel bill for a couple days of competition and, as much as it hurts to admit, gymnastics post-season isn’t a the money maker of March madness.

      I do hope there is mandatory testing of all coaches/athletes at each competition though.

      1. Good points. Teams that win basketball play six games in the same about three week period, so there is a lot more competing going on. Also, unfortunately agree on the money portion. That’s really all the NCAA looks at when making decisions. As someone who has a family member playing in the NCAA tournament, I am sure there will be daily tests done on gymnasts, coaches, managers, and really anyone who has any contact with the team at all. My guess is also that most of these teams are in a “self-imposed bubble” right now and doing everything they can to avoid being around others outside of their teammates.

  3. Having more parity among top teams makes Nationals so much more exciting than the past years of “will Florida or LSU beat Oklahoma? Oh guess not.”

    Probably those three will be the top three again, but it’s way less certain and I love it.

    1. I actually hope Michigan can upset everyone and get into the top 3 this time. My ideal four on the floor would be 1. Florida 3. Michigan 3. Oklahoma 4. Cal

      1. I think that if every team hits cold, only Florida can match or beat Michigan when all under the same judging. But that’s only if Trinity is back on every event. If she’s not, Michigan is the only team that is a legit 198 in my opinion.

    2. This is such an interesting season close because of what’s going on with Oklahoma *and* Florida. I’m a huge Oklahoma fan but I recognize that their top 2 ranking is really a result of overscoring, especially on floor earlier in the season. Like the group of Johnson, LaPinta, Deniz, and whoever else is subbing aren’t going to touch 9.9 in the post-season. They are a mid-197 team with a hit meet this post-season unless they can get back a couple more options on floor and not have one wobbly beam counting score.

      Florida seems to have the best path to the title, but their big issue is that under Rowland, they’ve only won SECs once (outdone by Alabama), and have only finished as high as 3rd (twice) in the championship round. A title would have been a reach given Oklahoma’s dominance but to not place 2nd in any of the seasons from 2016 on suggests an inability of the team to be at peak for the Championships. I am rooting for them to win this season, so I hope they break through this time, but SECs was really not a momentum boost.

  4. Not sure if anyone follows former Utah coach Greg Marsden on Twitter. He’s proposed a couple of times – 5 up, 5 count. That would really shake things up! One fall in any rotation could end a season. He advocated for this new format of 4 on the floor for years and it finally happened. You never know!

    1. I hate this idea to no end.

      5 up 5 count would lead to decrease in difficulty and stock boring routines will occur more often because it will be better to be cautious instead of daring.

      1. 5 up 5 count would also lesson the amount of routines. It would further limit the amount of gymnasts that get to perform. It’s a bad idea.

  5. Last I heard KJ (at OU) is a proponent of 5 up 5 count. Then the most consistent team would win. But I see your point about boring routines so they could hit. I hadn’t thought of that.

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