Right. Let’s get into it.
If, upon subjecting yourself to some of the bars execution scores from the Olympics, you began formulating questions like, “Huh?” “What?” and “How’s your crack addiction?” you were not alone.
To me, the most unexpected scoring-related development at the Olympics was those massive bars scores (high vault scores and beam taking forever were both way too predictable), especially compared to previous years.
This table lists the average execution scores awarded this quad during all world/Olympic finals (team, AA, and event) on each apparatus.
|Year||VT Execution||UB Execution||BB Execution||FX Execution|
We have some degree of Land of the Rising Scores happening on all the events compared to 2013, which is consistent with the 2012 quad when the execution scores were alarmingly low in 2009 and rose progressively from there.
There are several issues flopping around in this little chart, but the one I’m most interested in right now is bars on account of the dramatic increase just since last October, an increase that can’t be explained away through simple hit % the way it can on beam. (There may be something else going on with beam as well, but beam in 2015 was an utter splatfest throughout the meet, which can account for much of the difference in execution scores compared to this year).
This next list ranks the top bars execution scores from worlds/Olympics this quad. If you have a keen eye, you might notice something interesting about them.
|T1||Gabby Douglas||9.266||2016 Olympics Qualification|
|T1||Gabby Douglas||9.266||2016 Olympics Team Final|
|3||Madison Kocian||9.233||2016 Olympics Team Final|
|4||Madison Kocian||9.166||2016 Olympics Qualification|
|T5||Madison Kocian||9.133||2016 Olympics Event Final|
|T5||Aliya Mustafina||9.133||2016 Olympics Team Final|
|7||Aliya Mustafina||9.100||2016 Olympics Event Final|
|8||Aliya Mustafina||9.066||2016 Olympics All-Around|
|9||Aliya Mustafina||9.033||2016 Olympics Qualification|
|10||Daria Spiridonova||8.983||2016 Olympics Qualification|
|11||Sophie Scheder||8.966||2016 Olympics Event Final|
|T12||Jessica Lopez||8.933||2016 Olympics Qualification|
|T12||Celine Van Gerner||8.933||2016 Olympics Qualification|
|T12||Elisabeth Seitz||8.933||2016 Olympics Team Final|
|T12||Elisabeth Seitz||8.933||2016 Olympics Event Final|
|T12||Sanne Wevers||8.933||2016 Olympics Team Final|
|T12||Gabby Douglas||8.933||2015 Worlds Team Final|
It’s that they’re all from this year. Except for Gabby in the TF in 2015, which was previously the top major-event bars execution score of the quad and is now no longer in the top 10. So yeah, they’re higher. All of them. And by a lot.
Higher scores in and of themselves aren’t necessarily a bad thing (although unprompted inconsistency from year to year is not ideal). In fact, higher scores can be a welcome development if they indicate that the judges are using the whole execution spectrum to create more separation between the routines. That may have been the intent here. My assumption is that these new 9ish scores are a reaction to last year’s embarrassing four-way bunching of shame, yet sadly, no such wider range of execution scores emerged in 2016. The scores grew, but they grew for everyone at about the same rate, maintaining the status quo, just at a different place on the spectrum.
The peak E score did increase from 8.933 in 2015 to 9.266 in 2016, but at the same time, the median E score increased from 8.333 in 2015 to 8.600 in 2016. Most gymnasts received a similar-sized boost irrespective of general bars ability.
Much attention was paid to Aly Raisman’s 8.733 execution on bars in qualification because it’s Aly and bars and that score is crazy-high, but it’s consistent with the approximately three-tenth overall increase in average scores. For reference, the execution difference between Raisman and Douglas in qualification was .533, which is actually on the high side compared to previous competitions this quad. Previously this year, their execution difference has ranged from .150 to .550 when competing at the same meet. The boosts for both Douglas and Raisman were not as significant as for Kocian, however, who was among the greatest beneficiaries, going from 8.6s and 8.7s at worlds 2015 to 9.1s and 9.2s at the Olympics, a consistent half point increase for every routine.
What accounts for this change, what exactly is getting deducted less than it was before, we wouldn’t know without receipts. What’s clear is that there has been a concerted softening in the way bars routines are being evaluated since last year, though it doesn’t really do anything until the range between the great scores and the OK scores is increased. Without that, it’s just some random higher numbers.
13 thoughts on “Bars Scores: Pretty Cracky, Right?”
judges were having fire sales on 9+ E score ;). I do see the pattern of three names there :).
I imagine if ashton were allowed to compete she would be right in the mix with those domestic like E score?
the Chinese got lowballed a little on some of their routine, but then again the familiar theme for them as in the other 3 events is they are floated by D score. they def didn’t bring their ub A game to rio..
I’m just thinking like Raisman vs Yilin. But Yilin was really the only one who was really robbed of an EF where she could’ve won bronze. But also for Shang on beam and floor, where I thought really on beam that she could’ve made the final.
I don’t get Shang’s beam score. I get her floor score. I really do. She is quite messy on various floor elements. I didn’t add up all the deductions but it doesn’t seem unreasonable. But beam? No clue.
Yup. Ally’s scoring versus the poor Chinese girls. Absolutely shameful. Not impressed, judges. Not impressed.
I agree with you, Matthew. Shang’s beam execution score was the most perplexing. The only thing I can think of is that the judges wanted Aliya on the podium, so they hosed Shang on her beam score. It was inexplicable that Aliya outscored Shang on beam execution.
Mike C.–This is not the first, second, or fifth time judges have outrageously GIFTED Mustafina with a totally undeserved medal. Barf.
I love me some J-Lo but that bars E score in prelims was impossible. She scored about a point higher than she usually does. Major effort here by judges to get her into the event final.
Wouldn’t a gymnasts execution improve over time too? It’s makes sense that those who competed in both 2015 worlds and 2016 olympics would improve a few tenths.
Can we just get one or two judges to contribute to a blog or podcast and breakdown where they get the deductions for a few routines (a few example receipts)? I can understand E scores increasing if particular deductions are no longer taken, but there is no way that could result in an across-the-board increase for all gymnasts like we’ve seen here. It’s very suspicious and sends the message that E scores are given by overall impression rather than specific accounting.
I really wonder if there was something about where the judges were seated that interfered with their vision of the competitors on bars, which resulted in consistently higher scores there across all the days of competition.
I wouldn’t worry much about scores increasing steadily throughout the quad; people try to peak at the Olympics, so of course scores will rise as the quad progresses.
I think it may have something to do whith at which point gymnasts test their Olympic routines? Ie. 2015 Worlds might have been the big first outing of new routines that are to be polished up in the Olympic year.
From their viewpoint, the judges prob were mostly deducting on handstand angles and bent arms and not on leg separations bec Gabby had more of them than Maddy but Gabs had very nice hold on her handstands.
On another matter about Gabs, I’m sad that she really didnt take advantage of her natural lines to go for nice trad Rus skills like FT BHS or Chinese skills like a Rufolva. Why oh why didnt she do more twisting skills on floor to increase her D value like her old pass of 3/2 & Triple than saltos with that awkward Back Tuck and bad form on FT Double?!
As far as I can tell, this year on UB the judges randomly decided they would be rewarding dynamism, amplitude, and swing much more than they had the past few years. Hence Fan “Chinese Dead Hang” Yilin’s sudden jump from “UB champ” to “not even in the EF”, and Aly receiving great scores (as her swing is pretty good even though her detail work is questionable). That doesn’t excuse or explain the sudden spike in E scores over even what the US girls got at Trials, though.
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