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Anyway, to the competition! Is Xiao starting a streak? Or is it the age of the No-Kohei free-for-all? We shall learn the answer.
Our lead rotation group features Xiao, Nagornyy, Mikulak, Dalaloyan, Sun, and Kenzo. Clean performances from the first three in qualification gave themselves quite a buffer over the rest, but the other three all had their mistakes that, if rectified, can put them right up among the top options. The same holds for James Hall or Kazuma Kaya. And what of Oleg down in the third group but still being Oleg?
“Take me inside the mind of a Sam Mikulak.”
It’s just puppies.
First score in, Arican 13.966 on vault.
Sun – FX – front double pike, hop forward – front 2/1 to layout, clean – 2.5 to 1/2, solid – double double, a couple small hops out – punch rudi, stuck with a lean – Sun not even bothering to man wipe, just staring at the clock LOL – 3/1 dismount, super short with a couple lunges.
13.633. Far better than qualification.
13.466 for Yul.
Cool how we’re watching Oleg just sit there before rings instead of Dalaloyan on floor. Fun. Awesome.
Oleg – SR – not holding his holds for very long, super high in these cross positions – straddle planche is better – double double tuck, stuck. Got through the bad one
14.800 for Dalaloyan. And he needed it.
Mikulak – FX – 2.5 to double front, strong – front 2/1 to front tuck 1/1, stuck with a major swim – air flares, good – 1.5 to front layout 1/1, stuck – 2/1, stuck – extended man wipe – small hop 3/1. Very good first routine.
14.400. A little up from the first day.
I don’t understand how Oleg got 14.066 for that rings routine. It was…not good. Way more difficult, I know, but…
Nagornyy – FX – good triple back today, just a small hop – front 2/1 to double front, stuck – double double, hop back – 2.5 to front full to 1/2 – great – open full in side pass, small hop – 3/1, stuck. Excellent.
14.733 for Nagornyy.
Kaya – PH – really good speed – no leg breaks – a little bit of hip angle in his swing throughout, should be a strong score.
Xiao – FX – 3.5 to 1/2 – 2.5 to front 2/1, small hop – DLO, hop back – randi, struggles again, no fall but a staggered hop and awkward landing – 2/1 stuck – 3/1, stuck, good. Only OK.
13.933 for Xiao, a few tenths down from the first day.
Muntean – VT – Super clean Kas 1.5, small hop – not much leg form
Kenzo – FX – triple double tuck, hop back – shoots exactly horizontal on 3/1 combo pass but landed well – quad, excellent – 3.5 to full, stuck – 3/1, hop back.
Not the strongest landings for him, but our Kenzito should be winning at this point. 14.900.
Yulo – PH – a little dumpy up to handstand and back between the pommels – not a long or super difficult routine, but a hit –
Kenzo – 14.900
Dalaloyan – 14.800
Davtyan – 14.733
Nagornyy – 14.733
Muntean – 14.433
Mikulak – 14.400
A couple vaults got some people in the final group up there, otherwise sort of as expected there.
Xiao’s score got raised two tenths to 14.133.
Oleg – VT – Dragulescu – nailed it – great stick. He got through rings, so he can let his big scores get him right up the rankings now
Marcel – PB – Makuts – double tuck to arms – diam – pretty low on his next tuck, cowboy – peach 1/2, good vertical, some arch – double pike dismount, hop forward
Dalaloyan gets through with 13.400 on horse. He got an 11 in qualification to place 4th, so that improvement is huge.
Mikulak – PH – “It is all mental, and we’re about to see that” – no trouble on his handstand circling today – one of his good ones. Two down.
Was that Cheryl Hamilton losing her shit in the crowd? Or just someone who looks like her? I don’t think judges should do that, even if they judge a different discipline.
Braegger’s Earring – VT – Kas 1/1, perfectly clean and stuck, but lower difficulty
Mikulak 14.300 on horse. Moldauer 14.400 on vault
Nagornyy – PH – large leg break but keeps it going – overall nice height over the horse – some piking, but got through
13.566 for him. Really got hit for that leg break
Hall with really solid hold positions on rings – good length and few hesitations – double double tuck, small step
Big 14.700 for Xaio on horse.
Dalaloyan replay – really nice routine actually – great speed and toes –
Kenzo 12.533 on horse. Yep, that’s usually what happens.
Arican some small elbow hesitations in handstand but good difficulty, double front 12 out stuck with check up
Moldauer – VT – Kas 1.5 – medium-sized bounce forward this time – great form obvi
Bevan – SR – as we wait for him to go, Tim is trying not to laugh at his insane back tattoo – solid straddle planche down to L sit – a little abbreviated in some of these handstands – double double tuck, shortish with a hop forward
Muntean – 29.083
Verniaiev – 29.032
Xiao – 28.833
Mikulak – 28.700
Arican – 28.566
Davtyan – 28.499
So that’s basically meaningless, but all I know is Andrei Muntean will definitely win the world AA title.
But, Oleg is right there, so we’re not forgetting about him even though he’s in the #3 group. He’s going to PBars next, too.
Souza – VT – pretty nice Kas 2/1, lunge back – some legs. No, guys, that was a competition vault, not a warmup.
Hit 14.166 for Mikulak on rings.
Dauser – PB – nice diam handstand position – but then loses his arm on the 1/4 turn of Makuts, and then basically dies of gravity afterward and has an empty swing. Will be trouble.
Kaya – VT – Kas 1.5, just a little hop forward, good
Nagornyy goes 14.500 for rings. Super flat maltese work, really nice – double double tuck stuck. Nice.
Braegger – PB – clips his leg on his bhavsar – tippelt really low, I don’t think he rested on the bar, but it was super low – hand placements on diam – crazy release on his double front dismount, no chance and falls. PB is the new PH?
14.333 for Xiao. Bigger than day 1. Great stick on double double tuck.
Hall – VT – Kas 1.5 – pretty good, one medium crossover step – maybe a tad shot of twist, some knees
Sun – SR – good planche lower to maltese – I actually agree with Tim (!) about these high cross positions – trouble on his dismount, super short with a large lunge forward
13.9 for Sun. Not enough separation in these scores.
Hegi – PB – front straddle to arms is fine – tipllelt, good -stutz, good height – double front 1/2 out, hop back
Dalaloyan – SR – good maltese work opening – nice crosses – straddle planche – DLO 1/1, stuck. He’s having a great day and hasn’t even vaulted yet
Moldauer – PB – excellent front straddle – peach – peach 1/2, really good vertical – pretty short of vertical on these diam skills, not his best – tuck 1/2, good – double front 1/2 out, a little short with a hop. 14.500. Big number for him.
Verniaiev – PB – really nice peach to one to healy, excellent – Makuts, clean – super high tippelt – great extension of straddle in his bhavsar – this is Oleg awesomeness – double front 1/2, holds onto stick with a lean
Verniaiev – 44.698
Xiao – 43.166
Mikulak – 42.866
Nagornyy – 42.799
Onder – 42.765
Dalaloyan – 42.733
But now Oleg has to do high bar while the lead group vaults, so expect this margin to change.
We’re seeing a replay of Onder having a big error on a Stutz to one rail, but stuck landing.
Nagornyy – VT – Dragulescu – not quite stuck this time with a couple small steps back, but still excellent. 14.766.
Xiao – VT – Kas 2/1 – nice in the air, medium-sized lunge back. 14.866.
Onder – HB – Yam – layout tkatchev – and layout tkatchev to mixed – tkatchev – tkatchev to mixed – super late on tak 1/1 – DLO double twist, step back
Kenzo – VT – STUCK his TTY. Yes. Correct. Good.
Sun – VT – Kas 2/1 – deeper on landing with a hop to the side and out of the area, nice shape –
Dalaloyan – VT – NEARLY sticks a from handspring double pike, smallest hop – excellent
Mikulak – VT – Kas 1.5 – holds the stick on his own vault with a lean. Needed that stick to make up for the lower D. 14.6
Oleg – HB – Yam – tkatchev – tkatchev 1/2 – struggles on the vertical on a Tak – some really short handstands here – DLO double twist, way short and falls.
Also, can we talk about how terrible the camera work was there? Don’t cut in the middle of a Tak 1/1 so we can’t tell what angle we’re looking at and which direction he went over.
We’re checking out Kaya on replay on PB – crazy legs but great stick on double front 1/2
Hegi – super high on Yam 1/2 – hits the Def! – Kolman, good – closer on the tak 1/1 than most, but short with some arch – DLO full, step back
Hit PB from Hall. Davtyan the last one to go in this rotation – deep on a front 2/1 to save it – but good stick on final 3/1
Xiao – 58.032
Dalaloyan – 57.866
Nagornyy – 57.565
Mikulak – 57.466
Kaya – 57.232
Sun – 56.832
Four people for three medals?
Hall – HB – strong Cassina – Kovacs – Kolman, hit – Yam – super late tak 1/1 – nice tak 1/2, though – DLO doble twist, step back. Good one overall.
Xiao – PB – stutz from arms 1/2 – double tuck – peach 1/2, good – peach – double tuck to arms, great – front straddle – tippelt, good – double pike, small hop.
If he hits his Liukin this time…
Kenzo – PB – Makuts, struggles muscling out of it – double tuck, good – tippelt, good – stutz, nice vertical – tuck 1/2 and front straddle to arms, nice – double front 1/2, step back
Sun – PB – double tuck, good – peach 1/2, nice, small adjustment – front straddle to arms – tippelt, smooth – double front 1/2 out, stuck. Great one.
Yul 14.333 on floor.
Dalaloyan – PB – no mount trouble – hits priouetting – tippelt and bhavasr – front straddle is quite good – stutz, super – double front 1/2, stuck.
15.566. He moves ahead of Xiao. Wow.
Mikulak – PB – healy, good – peach 1/2, small adjustment – tuck 1/2 – front straddle to swing, grat – bhvsar, nice – tipellt, clean – stutz, good – double front 1/2 out, stuck. Keeping it close with the others.
15.441 for Mikulak. Staying in there. Will be looking to make up ground with his HB. He can gain a couple tenths there
Nikita can get a similar score on PB.
Nagornyy – PB – peach to one to healy, great – peach 1/2 – Makuts, worked through it, nearly clipped as he has done before but not this time – great diam – 1.5 piro with a lean – double front 1/2, almost awesome but like he college saluted himself into a step. Good, but a few more deductions there.
14.866. Because the other scores were so OTT, that hurts.
Kaya – HB – Tak 1/2 – layout tkatchev, solid, not super high – tkatchev – german giants – tak 1/1 very late to Yam – hop full – DLO double twist, stuck.
Dalaloyan – 73.432
Xiao – 73.365
Mikulak – 72.907
Nagornyy – 72.431
Sun – 71.632
Kaya – 70.965
Our four-person race continues. The Sam Mikulak high bar moment is coming. Mikulak and Xiao have the higher Ds on HB.
Tim is already giving Sam the gold medal. That’s…a little much. I mean, the goal is just hitting his routine for a medal right now. That would be enough. I have to think Xiao is the gold favorite here. If he hits his routine, that should be it.
Kenzo – HB – Yam – arch in 1/2 turn – layout Kovacs, good – really clean work overall – sticks DLO double twist, super routine.
Sun – HB – tak 1/1, fairly late – layout tkatch to tkatchev 1/2, quite nice – tak 1/2, late – layout tkatchev 1/2 – Yam, good – double double layout, hop back
Dalaloyan – HB – layout kovacs – tucked kovacs, super high – layout tkatchev 1/2 – tak 1/2 – strong – layout tkatchev – yam – DLO full, stuck. That was EXCELLENT.
Mikulak – HB – Here we go – Cassina hit – Kolman a little close and has to mucles out of it – layout tkatchev – tkatchev to tkatchev 1/2 and misses a hand and has to improvise with a one hand catch. Oh Sam. Double double layout, with a hop.
OUCH. 12.366 for Mikulak.
Nagornyy – HB – Yam – layout tkatchev – layout tkatchev 1/2 – suepr vertical handstand but an elbow break to keep it – tkatchev – tkatchev 1/2- double double layout, small hop. Good day for him as well.
13.900 and he’s into second
Xiao – HB – hits Liukin well – layout tkatchev – tkatchev – tkatchev 1/2 – great handstand positions – double double layout, small hop. We should have our winner there….right?
A TIE?!?!?!? AN EFFING TIE?!?!?!
Tiebreak goes to Dalaloyan.
1. Dalaloyan – 87.598
2. Xiao – 87.598
3. Nagornyy – 86.331
But is this the better-execution tiebreak or the stupid “drop the lowest score” Aly/Aliya tiebreak? Either way it goes to Dalaloyan, but one of those tiebreak procedures makes sense, and the other definitely doesn’t.
Mikulak took 5th. Would have been 3rd with a normal hit.
Apparently it is that stupid Aly/Aliya tiebreak. UGH. At least it would have been the same result using a sensible tiebreak procedure.
50 thoughts on “Worlds 2018 – Men’s All-Around Final”
I had the pop-up ads through the Twitter feed/app as well, unfortunately. (Not trying to be snarky, I know you’re doing everything you can! Just an FYI if you can take it up with WordPress.)
I also had the pop-up on both twitter app and chrome app on iPhone, just as an fyi (also not trying to be snarky)
What place you guys think Sam’s gonna get? I’m gonna go with… 4th.
I know you’re being sassy but I think that’d be a really good result for Sam in the AA and one that he could be proud of, especially if it involves hitting 6/6.
This world feed is killing me already. Why are we watching Oleg stretch for ages instead of seeing Dalaloyan on floor?
I take it back after the rest of the first rotation. Except for the bizarre ‘we must see Oleg prepare for rings’ the routine selections were pretty good.
After 2, I feel like each rotation we got one bizarrely long prep session (Oleg on SR and then someone on PB), but overall it seems much improved from Day 1.
I’m going to guess WordPress censors comments with more than one link?
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Just FYI…I tried firefox, safari and chrome on my phone and all of them gave me the popup. I am not getting it on a desktop. Just in case that info helps you get it resolved.
Yeah, even opening it direct from the twitter on my iphone also gave me the problem ad. In case that also helps with diagnosing the problem. I’m accessing the site on my laptop and iPad just fine. Thanks Spencer for trying to resolve the problem!
I have an Android and started getting the ads this morning on my phone.
Feed not working for anyone else suddenly just now?
I’m having the same pop up ad issue on thegymter.net. It happens on the chrome app too but I’ve been able to just hit the back button it usually works.
The FIG stream commentator’s usually pretty good at identifying the gymnasts in the audience, but she just called Ragan Smith “one of Moldauer’s supporters.” JUSTICE FOR RAGAN
Yep! Like clockwork, the pervy cameraman is only pointing the camera at attractive women in the audience. The women are starting to cover their faces whenever the camera is on them.
Oleg!!!! Do you guys think he has a shot to win this? With some surprise upgrades and falls from the others? I would die if he finally gets gold while recovering from surgery on like all his limbs.
Well. Never mind that…
Oleg seems motivated to get back to training. That’s the good news. This year is basically a write off for him with his two surgeries. I’m glad he was close through 3 rotations. HB was never a good event for Oleg. And his shoulder surgery doesn’t help on this event. I say this now in a rational manner, but I was screaming and throwing things during his HB routine. I hope he gets gold on PB.
OMG Dalaloyan’s vault is why I watch gymnastics. That was beautiful.
OMG I’m not the only one having the ad problem on the iPhone?! GOD BLESS!!!!! That is so nice to hear, thank you Spencer for trying to fix it even though it’s hard! I was so worried I wouldn’t be able to read BBS anymore!!! Day made! 🙂
(Also for what it’s worth the problem is happening in Chrome for iPhone too, not just Safari.)
If Xiao hits, he’s going to win. UGH I’m tired of seeing the Chinese win… particularly because everyone is on an equal playing field and China always just randomly ends up on top.
Sam. WHY. I cannot cope with all the disappointment in this worlds.
Sam is the Brazil of the men’s AA final
I just said this to someone else
YESSSSSSSS XIA GOT SECOND FUCK YAS ARTUR MY BABY
I will say, at least of the routines we saw today, I am really impressed at how few falls we saw! I think we saw two people fall on landings (one on PB and Oleg on HB, but no one actually fall during routines. No injuries, a very high percentage of hits. Such a difference from the last few days. And from worlds last year. They brought it today. Or mostly, anyway.
Also – even if Sam hit, it looks like he might likely have ended up 4th?
If he got the same score as team finals he would have been 3rd.
bump for sam…. so close.. came down to last routine..
These HB judges are SAVAGE. Doing this AGAIN. Making the margin SO TINY. It’s almost sadistic.
I’m so happy Artur was able to come back and win tonight after how disappointed he was with himself two nights ago.
With a hit HB routine, Sam would have gotten the bronze. FML. Poor, sweet Sam.
Ugh Sam. I knew he didn’t have 3 hit HB routines in a row in him. And the worst part of it all is that since he didn’t fall, I am still afraid he has a fall in him for HB finals too.
If he walks away from 5 finals with no medals, I’m going to be super sad. And I’m not even American.
WTF that’s the stupidest tiebreak. Highest E total I’d be down with. Or honestly even the person with the lower range of scores (i.e. the truer “all-arounder” or “less lopsided” gymnast, aka the opposite of what they just did). I’d even take higher D, or higher qualification score. But this is stupid.
Ugh yes all this does is reward the person who made the biggest error/ had the weakest event….. how this doesn’t cause more outrage confuses me.
At least in this case, Dalaloyan would have won the E score tiebreak too. But yes. Stupidest tiebreak rule ever.
Dalaloyan would have won either tie-breaking procedure, so in the end it didn’t matter!
Completely idiotic tiebreak procedure, total execution score or higher qualification score would be better rules (Dalaloyan wins the first, Xiao the second).
Honestly, I feel that no matter what the procedure chosen, it will be arbitrary. IMHO the fairest would be then to go by the Preliminary score. But even that is not 100% fair since the gymnasts might have competed on different rotations.
I just really need Yul to increase his difficulty so that we have another American that can actually compete against the best on the world stage. Because I’m tired of Sam being our “star” gymnast. At least this time he met my expectations that he would falter in a pivotal moment so I wasn’t surprised.
You bring up a good point. Would everyone be so mad at Sam if the USA had another athlete capable of competing for an AA medal? Dominique Dawes broke our hearts over and over again with AA mistakes but we mostly just felt bad for her and kept rooting for her because we had Shannon to fulfill the “USA medal Yay!” part of our watching. Whereas with Sam, fans just get irritated and act like they’re sick of him continuing to exist as a talented athlete. But if he wasn’t around, USA wouldn’t even have any chance at all. There are lots of other talented all-arounders who never made it to the podium. Sam’s just the one we’re focusing on. But I for one am at least glad USA has someone who has the routines to give it a shot.
After watching 5/6 routines from Sam, I was 100% certain he’d find a way to screw up high bar. And he did. How many Worlds and Olympics has he been through only to end up with one bronze team medal to show for it?? His incredible talent and skill is worth nothing if he can never produce when it’s needed. A medal was in his grasp and he blew it on a routine he’s already done well twice. So disappointing.
You know, elite gymnastics routines are not easy. It’s tough to hit these tough routines. I’m proud of Sam, even if I wish his results were better. He is very supportive of his teammates and his competitors. Sam’s a great gymnast and an even nicer person.
Sam’s biggest problem is how much absurd HYPE the US gives him. He’s very good but he’s not incredible. He just isn’t. I think it’s a little harsh to be mad at him for never getting individual medals. There’s a lot of competition and Sam pretty much needs to hit every routine to be in contention. I think he’s straining at the top of his ability to be competitive with the top group of MAG. It’s not like WAG where Simone and several others are super far ahead of the field and have room for mistakes, or where Kyla could do routines that were relatively easy for her in order to ensure that she never made mistakes and still have a reasonably competitive D score.
Obviously Sam could do better but he’s not like a giant failure IMO, more like a mild disappointment.
Honestly, I wouldn’t care what place Sam came in, if he would just HIT his routines. But he doesn’t. Or at least he won’t do it on the international stage when it counts. If he hit and he came in 6th, then that would still be great. I just wish the US didn’t have to pin all their hopes and dreams on him and there was someone else in US MAG who actually could compete with the top flight of men and actually had consistency.
Everyone has to hit their routines in MAG AA to get a medal. No one in men’s gymnastics is so good that they can fall and still medal. So, I think your statement that Sam isn’t *that good* because he has to hit to get a medal is kind of shortsighted. Factually, he is among the top gymnasts in the world because he’s always in contention for an AA medal. He just can’t put it together when it counts.
Wow Arthur ! He’s adorable
Agreed. I’m in love with him.
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