Worlds 2018 – Women’s All-Around Final

It’s the Simone show.

After that, we think it’s the Morgan show.

After that, it’s the 78 people show? Murakami? Melnikova? Black? De Jesus Dos Santos? Derwael?

The mysteries we face…

Olympic Channel telling us who might win. It might be Simone. Breaking news from Tim: the Doha Pearl has not passed yet.

“Tim, you’re going to give the update on Simone’s urinary tract. OK Cool? Cool.”

To add suspense, the broadcast is trying to figure out whether Simone will do the Biles or the Cheng.

Rotation 1

Murakami – VT – DTY – good power, medium hop back, solid direction, nice and expected. Probably best DTY we’ll see today, no leg crossing. 14.566

Hurd – VT – DTY – strong, a little bit of legs, fairly small hop back, better control than she used to have. 14.600.

Biles – VT – she has posted the Biles – HOLY CRAPITOLY – she fell on the Biles. Short. Sat it down.

I mean…she’ll still win…but…wow. Didn’t get basically any block.

14.533. So she’s basically tied with the others.

Flavia got a 13 on bars. That’s a good bars score for her.

Luo goes 14.400 on bars.

Black – VT – handspring layout full – excellent! Stuck-ish – some legs, some knees – small slide back in salute.

Melnikova – VT – DTY – not controlled – large bounce back and then 78 other little hops after that – some legs in the air but not too bad. 14.166.

13.366 for Moors on floor

Derwael – FTY – hop back, clean, normal. 13.566

Melanie’s bars score comes in at 13.500. She ca get higher than that, so that won’t help her pace a ton.

Axelle – FX – falls out of doubel Y, won’t get that – split leap 1/1 – strong DLO, small slide forward – front tuck through to double tuck – switch ring – split leap 1.5 – really deep on piked-full in, sort of lands in a ball shape and hops forward – double pike, dances out – oh Axelle, you treasure – but that was not her strongest

Golgota – gigantic break on her switch leap mount – “The hope of an entire nation” – a million steps on that mount but an amazing save – bhs back lay-pike, check – front tuck, check – side somi, another leg-up break – side aerial, large lean, significant breaks on every skill – double tuck was nice, small hop

11.566 for Golgota.

Luo – UB – Shap to pak, gorgeous – toe Shap – good finish on E piroettes – piked jaeger, solid – DLO, stuck, nice – Tim and Nastia freaking out about her last 1/2 turn, but not a big deal

Downie – UB – front toe 1/2 to toe shap to Hindorff, nice – toe full to piked tkatchev to pak – toe Shap – flings out DLO a little with a hop, but a really good one! 13.900

Valeri is here with Flavia, but you can’t see Flavia in the shots because she’s so small, so it looks like he’s just lurking around

After 1

Hurd – 14.600
Murakami – 14.566
Biles – 14.533
Black – 14.4
Luo – 14.4
Melnikova 14.166

Rotation 2


Luo – BB – switch to split ring to bhs, lovely – ro off to layout 2 feet, leg-up wobble, but kept her toes pointed in the wobble, so points for that – breaks a mixed series out of aerial – onodi to stag, strong – side aerial, check – switch ring, pretty good – double pike, locked leg with a lunge back

Hurd – UB – inbar Shap to stalder full to tkatchev, hit – Ricna to Pak, well done – stalder shoot – inbar 1/2 – inbar 1/1 to FTDT, small step back – basically the identical routine she’s been doing the whole competition

Moors – VT – handspring pike 1/2, big bounce back

14.333 for Hurd.

Biles – UB – weiler 1/2 – toe Shap to tkatchev – toe full to piked tkatchev to pak – toe Shap 1/2, solid – double double tuck, small hop. So year, she’s going to be fine…? 14.725.

Mori – VT – so this is a lot of look – full, small hop back –

Good 13.733 for Melanie on beam.

Chen – BB – ro layout to 2 feet – step to the side but kept it on – aerial mixed series, good, small check at the end – switch ring to swingdown – switch to split ring – this is much nicer than her previous beams – split ring leap – 3/1, gets it mostly around, hop back

Ellie Black fell on bars for 12.900. What life is this?

Melnikova – UB – inbar full – inbar Shap to Pak, lovely – toe Shap 1/2, leg break – inbar 1/2 to piked jaeger – short on orphan 1/2 turn – toe full to FTDT, small hop – fine, some handstands, some legs

Nina – UB – Nabieva (or as Tim said, “Na-beaver”) – Derwael to Yezhova to shap to Bhardwaj, nailed – Shap 1/2 – toe full to FTDT, stuck. Awesome again.

15.100 will shoot Nina up the standings obviously

Ellie – BB – front tuck, stuck – switch to switch 1/2, nice – bhs loso, huge break with a swim, saves it – double turn with leg-up wobble – side aerial – 2.5 stuck! Some really nice moments but probably too many large breaks to save the E score.

Murakami – UB – toe shap to gienger, a little low but hit – piekd jaeger, fine, a litlte close – jaeger, hit – toe full to bail, a little short – FTDT, stuck.

Saraiva – BB – ro bhs mount – ro layout to 2 feet, perfect – full turn – split leap to split – bhs loso three series and falls – WHY LIFE WHY – aerial to split ring – so upsetting, the rest of this routine is exceptional – split ring leap with a small wobble – double pike, bounce back

DJDS – BB – front pike mount, strong, arm save – front pike, also secure – bhs layout to 2, stuck – switch to split – switch 1/2 – aerial to sissone to bhs – side America, super secure – this is great – double tuck, bounce back

After 2
Biles – 29.258
Hurd – 28.933
Derwael – 28.666
Melnikova – 28.599
Chen – 28.166
Murakami – 28.132

Rotation 3

Biles – BB – wolf triple – sissone to wolf, solid – LORD, falls on barani – say it with me now, THAT DAMN BARANI – strong on bhs loso loso – switch to switch 1/2 to back pike – front pike, huge break, leg-up wobble – aerial, breaks connection to split jump – bhs bhs full in – bounc eback.

The thing is…her score is still going to be high

13.233 for Biles.

Chen – FX – split jump 1/1 – 3/1, small hop – triple turn, good – 2.5 to front piiiiike?, small hop – switch ring – double tuck, small hop  – split ring – switch 1/2 – she’s having a much better day

Teramoto – VT – rudi – hits it this time, hop back (reminder to Tim that they can’t credit this vault as piked, that doesn’t exist in the code, they just have to deduct for the E)

Melnikova – BB – front tuck to split to straddle, super – switch ring attempt – bhs loso, strong – aerial to split ring – Nastia thinks these ring positions are hideous trash – side somi – split ring leap – Nastia having a coronary embolism about it – double pike, hop back. Super solid routine. Few checks.

Ellie Black’s 13.600 on beam should help get her back a little closer.

13.466 puts Melnikova into current 2nd, 4 tenths behind Simone.

Long wait for this score on the broadcast as Nastia launches into the next rendition of the “I hate these ring positions” in D minor. More of this, please, Nastia.

Derweal – BB – loso mount, some feet – bhs loso, check – aerial to split, lovely – side somi, check – switch to split leap – wolf triple, a little sluggish but a nice lean – double wolf but at least puts some choreo in between? (stab eye) – gainer full, hop forward, really nice routine

13.733 for Nina! She’s one tenth behind Simone. Trouble for Nina’s medal hopes will be her lower D on floor.

Golgota – VT – DTY, smaller hop back, some legs throughout

Murakami – BB – switch – aerial – switch to split – front tuck, lowish with an arm wave – bhs loso, solid – switch ring – side aerial, also hit – isn’t that her second front tuck? Was one a pike attempt? – full turn – double pike, hop back. Good.

13.666 puts her currently 4th, but her floor ability puts her squarely in medal contention.

Barbosa – VT – step back on DTY, good one, some knees

Hurd – BB – back full, leg-up break but saves it – side aerial, way off and grabs the beam – bhs loso, hit – aerial to split to straddle – switch – side America is good – full turn – switch ring – double pike, stuck. The second 1/2 was great.

Simone and Morgan are sharing some FML laughing right now.

12.933 for Hurd. She’ll be in 4th heading to floor.

These top five are all in it for medals going to floor.

DJDS – FX – DLO full, right into the corner, just like in TF, small hop – full in, short with a lunge to the side – switch 1/1 – wolf 2.25 – front loso to double tuck, slide back – double pike, bounce

After 3
Biles – 42.491
Derwael – 42.399
Melnikova – 42.065
Hurd – 41.866
Murakami – 41.798
Chen – 41.199

Will be tough for Nina to keep a medal place with the way Hurd and Murakami can score on floor, but not inconceivable at all.

Rotation 4

Chen – FTY – pikes it down, hop back

54.632 total for Chen. Good day. She goes ahead of Ellie Black with that.

Melnikova – FX – can she endurance it? – double L to double turn, will get it – DLO 1/1, keeps it just in bounds this time – switch ring 1/2, sigh – DLO, step back OOB – wolf 2.25 – front tuck through to double tuck, a little short – double Y is good – grab your rosary beads for this dismount – she hit it mostly! – a little short with a stagger step.

Much better than TF, but not as good as qualification

13.633. A little high for me.

Derwael – FX – switch ring – split leap 1.5, around, should get it – 1.5 to front full, a little slide – double Y, probably credit – wolf 2.1175 – doubel tuck, a little slow but gets it around – lunge back – lovely.



Saraiva – VT – DTY – really good height, small step forward

14.566 for Melanie on DTY, just behind Derwael and Melnikova.

Murakami – FX – falls out of quad spin, ended up doing like a 4.75 or something – doubel double, small bounce back – nails DLO – 2.5 to front full, a little short with a hop back – switch ring split leap 1.5 – L turn double – double pike, hop back. Good one, mostly good landings, that spin will hurt –

14.000. She’s in tears but she’s in first even with that turn.

What is actually happening?

Tim and co don’t know the score yet and are giving Nina medals already

Luo – VT – full with a hop back

Hurd – FX – double double, good, small slide – DLO, the same little pike but a super controlled landing – good switch ring – split 1.5, probably gets it – front lay to front 1/1, a little short with a slide – Ferrari – split jump full – double pike, stuck. This is going to be impossibly close.

13.866. Behind Murakami and into second. Didn’t get her full D score, and it’s the difference.

That means Nina and Melnikova will not medal after Simone goes.

We see the DTY from MDJDS, large bounce back

Biles – FX – Moors, bounces OOB again – Biles, no connection to stag, lunge forward – switch to split leap 1.5 – no trouble landing the full in, small hop – double double, great

15.000 for Simone.

1. Biles – 57.491
2. Murakami – 55.798
3. Hurd – 55.732
4. Derwael – 55.699
5. Melnikova – 55.698
6. De Jesus Dos Santos – 55.599

So there we have it. Simone wins because of course she does, but she did it with two falls, which will be fodder for the “bring back the 10.0” crowd. I myself am a little ambivalent about a person winning the AA title with two falls. Not as much because “she didn’t DESERVE it” or something…it’s Simone and of course she’s better than everyone else, but a sport where the result is actually inevitable is….meh. And Simone winning by this insane margin on this day proves that inevitability.

The rest of the medals kept this particular one from being meh.

But at the same time difficulty should matter. So I know there’s a lot of angst about Derwael finishing 4th despite having by far the cleanest day of the top five, but she vaulted a full, so she’s not going to be up there. It makes sense. And ultimately I think the placement of the remaining five makes sense. Hurd grabbed the beam, but Melnikova had a grabbing-the-beam-equivalent vault landing. Murakami fell out of a turn, but that’s not a HUGE deduction, comparatively.

Longines prizes to Melnikova and Dalaloyan.


174 thoughts on “Worlds 2018 – Women’s All-Around Final”

  1. Someone please put the link of where we can watch this! I’ve searched Olympic Channel but can only find replays but no live events!

      1. Pretty sure it’s geolocked, not available in the US and possibly other countries

    1. My personal interpretation: she’s going for teal, but also kinda a US color. It’s really halfway in between.

      That said I hate putting words into athletes’ mouths, so that’s just my head.

    2. Thank you!

      Extra benefit: We are now all fluent in Arabic after watching this!

  2. The german broadcast opened with “Ladies and Gentlemen, live from Doha – The Simone Biles show!”

    1. Where are you watching in Germany? Couldn’t find anything so I’m on some arabic stream now

      1. If your feet don’t hit the ground first it’s an immediate zero. Simakova fell on her face first in quals which is why it was a zero. But Simone hit her feet first then sat, which is totally fine.

      1. Because her feet hit first. It’s only a zero if your butt hits before your feet.

      2. Because she fell. But she still completed the vault. She made it around. She didn’t land flat on her back or anything. It was a fall, not an incomplete attempt.

      3. You only get a 0 for falling if your feet weren’t the first part of your body (or one of the first if multiple parts hit simultaneously) to hit the ground. He feet hit first, then she sat it. That’s a 1 point deduction.

  3. Melnikova’s form in the air is so much better than some other Russians one could mention. She looks really clean!

    1. It’s not letting me post a link, but if you google doha gymnastics worlds longines it should be the first hit.

  4. Nice shot of an audience member picking their nose there on the fig channel feed…

  5. Why, just why did Simone attempt a Biles??? She should have gone with an Amanar or a Cheng, she can do any of these two vaults in her sleep, she didn’t need the difficulty of the Biles to win!!! She is fighting a damn kidney stone!! Why did she want to take any more risks? (but then I admire the fact that she wanted to challenge herself anyway)

    1. She also doesn’t necessarily need the E score of a Amanar or Cheng to win. Why shouldn’t she push herself if she wants to? The other day people were saying “when will she do a floor routine that’s actually hard for her” – well, maybe the Biles is still at the edge of her comfort zone. And that’s ok.

      1. But what if she falls on beam now? Or on bars? Shit happens! And now she has no room for error.
        I dunno, if I were her, once I had the vault name after me, I would try to secure the gold medal.
        If I were in this competition, I would take crazy risks at the LAST final of the LAST day, and once I got the medal I wanted the most?
        But then I’m not her and I dunno what she wants, so!! 🙂

    2. It’s not like it significantly hurts her chances; why *not* go for another attempt at your named vault? Also, it looked like she just got a fluke crappy block, I dunno that a Cheng would’ve gone any better. And you don’t play conservative because of the potential for a fluke occurrence like that.

    3. Because she wanted to win with a bang. It literally doesn’t matter if she fell. That’s why she went for it. She would have done a Cheng if there was anyone even remotely capable of beating her.

  6. I will say that after 1 I feel like the choice of routines is continuing to improve. I think we saw everyone in the top group and about 4 other routines – and that seems entirely fine to me. Yay!

    Also I’m watching the Alkass feed and I’m loving it. I can understand just enough of what they’re saying, they are clearly pretty knowledgeable about gymnastics, and no commercials. Wish we could have this for some amount of money in the U.S. normally.

      1. Yep! So I know I’m not seeing any fewer American routines. But it has no ads, and I mind these commentators a lot less (though perhaps in part because I can only understand a quarter of what they say). Paying for ad-free coverage and some choice of commentators was what I was wishing was available.

    1. Yep. Totally agreed. Tim Daggett is completely obnoxious to listen to. Can’t commentate in a way that is fair and unbiased. He clearly loves the Americans and won’t say anything bad about them. He just ripped Melnikova apart and said she used to do “horrible routines”.

      1. And yet Tim Daggett is very much the one of the slighly old trio (Tim, Al, Nastia) who annoyed me least.

  7. The last World AA rotation where Simone was behind was 2013 after BB. Kyla was ahead by 0.016.

      1. Thank you! WHICH country is this supposed to be available to? I’ve tried France and Canada so far (using VPN), and it keeps saying it’s not available in my country …

  8. Re: your comment about when the last time simone wasn’t leading at worlds…not worlds, but wasn’t mustafina leading after 2 events in rio?

  9. Is the last time Simone wasn’t in first at a rotation break when Kyla was ahead of her going into floor in 2013?

    1. Oh I’m sorry, I didn’t see that Mary wrote Worlds there. Oh wait, she didn’t.

      1. I think many people (myself included) wrote these comments because there was a line in the live log asking when the last time Simone wasn’t winning during a rotation break at Worlds. That line is no longer there.

        You’re definitely right about Rio though. 🙂

  10. Too bad the fair scoring for Chinese gymnasts stopped after team finals. These E scores (compared to those of western gymnasts) are insulting.

  11. I don’t know if I can watch Simone’s beam. I’m too nervous she’s going to fall or grab the beam or something.

  12. It’s like anything she ever has any trouble on she has extra trouble on today. Which kind of makes sense if she’s dealing with a bunch of other medical stuff.

    And she’s STILL in the mix for gold. Or leading.

  13. Who would have thought it would be Simone to end the no-falls-on-beam-streak for the US?!

  14. If Simone Wins = RIP Gymnastics. Math may add up but how in the world can anyone defend this as enjoyable or artistic gymnastics, or an all-around performance……..

    1. Huh. I feel super differently. This would be the equivalent of Usain Bolt tripping over his shoelaces and still winning Olympic Gold – no one is expected to be far enough ahead of the field for that to be possible, but sometimes it happens.

      1. Must be nice to drink the kool aid then because it is not enjoyable to watch this mess of an event.

      2. @Saddened Gym Fan: I think I get to decide for myself what I do/do not enjoy watching. I have enjoyed the heck out of this. The mistakes from the presumed 1-2 kept it interesting. Murakami rocked it. There was some beautiful gymnastics from DJDS, Melnikova, Darwael. People will remember that no one is perfect, that even with American dominance someone else got the silver, and Simone is just that commandingly great. In fact, if anything, watching these routines makes me really happy – I’d rather see really clean gymnastics with mistakes than totally chucked gymnastics, and I saw almost none of the latter.

        You don’t have to agree with me! You are sad that the person who won wasn’t literally perfect – and that’s ok! But I am just showing you a different perspective. Different people will react differently, and that’s ok, and none of it is drinking the Kool Aid.

    2. Simone just wanted to make the competition exciting for fans and to tease her fellow gymnasts into thinking they had a chance to maybe take the gold. 🙂

  15. What *will* drive me crazy is if it ends up taking a lower score to medal here than it effectively takes to make the U.S. Olympic Team – but so far that’s seeming unlikely. But a Yfull is in 2nd at the moment. So…we’ll see.

    1. Augh! That mistake which much bigger for her than any of Simone’s were for Simone.

      1. I know… she’s in 4th now. 🙁 I know her floor probably beats out Derwael, but not Melnikova or Mai.

    1. Literally in no world should Nina and her FTY and her floppy feet be anywhere near an AA medal.

      1. Despite that, her mistakes have been smaller and her bars has helped keep her in contention, and her beam scored strong compared to those competing today. I love Simone and Morgan, and I’m still sure medals are in their future, but it’s nice to get some new blood on the podium. Sorry you don’t feel the same way.

      2. I accept your apology! Extremely generous scoring compared to other competitors is what kept Derwael in contention! She did a good job and her bars are very cool, but the E scores she received were absolutely absurd. She should never have been as close as she was. I would also love new blood on the podium, but I don’t think Derwael deserved to be there and I’m so relieved she didn’t medal. I am the person ranting above about China’s E-scores – I find it beyond offensive how Luo Huan and Chen Yile were scored on BB in comparison to Derwael. To be honest I don’t think she should’ve come ahead of Melnikova either, despite Melnikova’s own execution issues.

  16. Honestly, how is Simone still in the lead after two falls without even doing floor? Watch her go OOB on floor and still take gold. GOAT.

  17. I can’t handle the drama in all the finals at this Worlds

    Every single final so far has taken ten years off my life

    This one might take more!!!

  18. Honestly, I just want to see Melnikova on the podium. That would be the cherry on top to a successful year for her.

  19. I know it’s not likely to happen, but I want to see Melanie medal. I just love her gymnastics.

  20. Is Flavia wearing a ripoff of the white Ozone leo the Texas Dreams girls wore at Jesolo? (I think it was Jesolo?) I mean, it does look good in black too! Lol.

      1. Ah, yes. Kim’s line put it out in white, but I guess they were able to order it in black. It’s a VERY distinctive leo!

  21. I don’t care who medals, Simone, Morgan, Angelina, Mai, Chen, are all great. I just hope Nina doesn’t. I think her gymnastics are ugly.

  22. Morgan needs a 13.832 to overcome Melnikova. A big number. I think she scored a 13.9 in quals. Nina shouldn’t be able to end up in the medals.

    1. Nina doesn’t bother me – she had a great qualifying meet and followed that up today. I’m more troubled that we could end up with an all-around champion who has fallen twice in four routines.

      1. Sooooo bummed! She was so, so close to going 1-2 with Simone!!! Literally one balance check away.

  23. So, fall on vault, fall on beam, OOB on floor… gold medal.

    Just Simone things.

  24. Worst gymnastics world competition ever. Disagree? I got a bridge to nowhere to sell you.

    1. Bc everyone has to keep throwing harder and harder skills to bolster their D scores, until the competition is down to who has the hardest skills and falls the least …

    2. I agree. Watching Simone win is only fun when she’s *actually* dominant. Winning while falling twice is, no offense to her, pretty underwhelming to watch.

      The new COP was made over 12 years ago so that the gymnasts who take risk and make small mistakes can end up outscoring safe routines without mistakes. But now a gymnast with highest difficulty and 2 falls can still win the AA by 1.6.

      Maybe it’s time for another major revamp of the COP…

      1. “But now a gymnast with highest difficulty and 2 falls can still win the AA by 1.6.” No… if Simone had high difficulty + mediocre execution and fell twice she wouldn’t win. Her execution is the biggest part of her advantage. People have had more difficulty than her and lost

      2. Honestly, I’ve heard people talk about the COP should be re-vamped to make falls bigger deductions, but if anything, I feel the opposite. I’d rather watch a clean, well-executed routine with a fall (like Simone’s) than a routine without falls but everything has messy legs, wobbles, no extension, etc. I find the latter so un-enjoyable… I mean, not that I enjoy watching falls, but when someone has bad technique or form, they generally have it ALL the time, whereas anyone can have a fluke fall.

        Also, let’s remember that Simone won’t be around forever. I think FIG should think carefully about re-vamping the code when this kind of thing when it’s really just one person who’s skewing things so much. She plans to retire after 2020, and competitions should go back to “normal” for a while at least after that.

    3. We get it. You’re annoyed by the outcome. So am I. But can you please stop posting the same thing over and over?

      1. Listen here, I am not annoyed by Simone winning, she deserved it. I’m annoyed by the sport. And I posted twice. So kiss my fucking ass.

    4. Also, not that I want to get into internet fights about language, but that’s not really the meaning of the “bridge to nowhere” saying… I get you’re pissed, but that particular saying doesn’t make any sense in your comment.

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