Sunday Live Blog – March 3, 2019

Sunday, March 3 Scores Stream
1:00 ET/10:00 PT – [2] UCLA @ [1] Oklahoma LINK ESPN
1:00 ET/10:00 PT – Central Michigan @ Ball State LINK ESPN3
1:00 ET/10:00 PT – Cortland @ Ithaca FREE
1:00 ET/10:00 PT – Rhode Island @ Springfield
2:00 ET/11:00 PT – Penn, UIC @ Lindenwood LINK FREE
2:00 ET/11:00 PT – Winona State @ Hamline
3:00 ET/12:00 PT – Arizona, Air Force, Centenary @ TWU LINK FREE

So ready. All in, all regrets.

Early lineups from the live stats look like they have Maggie Nichols competing, but not on vault in the first rotation. UCLA has switched the pre-linups and put Toronjo back into the bars lineup in the third spot instead of Grace Glenn, who is still on beam.

If the scoring is only normal-high in this meet, it’s going to be such a letdown. I’m ready for wild mathematically impossible 10s for every single gymnast. I’m expecting none of these judges to have email, is what I’m saying.

2018 Super Six retrospective. Our Val can weave a story, that’s for sure.

Latest: Kyla and Maggie are both good at gymnastics.

Rotation 1

Note: Nebraska has also attempted six 10.0 starts

Lehrmann – VT – OU – strong 1.5 as usual, small hop to the side, a little knees, good distance and height. 9.875. A reasonable score to start.

Frazier – UB – UCLA – toe shap to pak, high, a bit of leg break – toe shap 1/2, nice form there – tight final cast hs this week – DLO, step back. Not as clean as her usual, but only a few small things. 9.800

Webb – VT – OU – a little locked on landing coming in for her 1.5, hop forward, solid leg form in the air 9.850

Hano – UB – UCLA – Rau to overshoot, solid height, some leg form – short cast hs on high – giant full, late, to double tuck, stuck. Good. 9.800

Degouveia – VT – OU – managed to stick her 1.5 somehow despite coming off nearly entirely horizontal on her vault, so probably a height deduction, maybe a bit of legs, not much else. 9.950

Toronjo – UB – UCLA – toe on to Ray, close catch – a little arch in hs on high, holds it – bail, solid legs together – short final cast hs – DLO super pretty in the air, comes in low with a hop. 9.800

Stern – VT – OU – solid 1.5 for her as well – small hop forward – doesn’t have the distance of the previous vaulters – a bit of knees in the air and on landing. 9.800

Flatley – UB – UCLA – a bit tight on first hs – higgins into lovely jaeger – to on, a little loose back – very strong bail position, crisp vertical – will get a couple hs deductions – DLO, nice control. 9.875

Trautman – VT – OU – 1.5 – hops forward on hers this week, larger than her usual – a bit of legs apart that can also be deducted – 9.850

Kocian – UB – UCLA – godo first hs – stalder to pak, nice, just a bit of legs – arch in cast 1/2 on low bar, pulls it back – they’re all mising those final cast hs – hop back on FTDT. 9.825

Dowell – VT – OU – powerful 1.5, hop forward, looked for a while like she was going to be able to stick – good. 9.900

Ross – UB – UCLA – shap to bail, perfect – shoot tight – hits final cast hs – DLO, nails the stick. Her usual. Excellent.

Oh Holly Rowe. We’ve had “Kayla Ross” and “Brenna McDowell” so far.

It’s a 10 for Kyla. Carol was like…….BUT WE HAVEN’T GIVEN OUT ANY 10s YET WHAT DO WE DO. I do agree with Kathy that was one of Kyla’s better 10s this year.

After 1:Oklahoma 49.425, UCLA 49.300

Lower scores than we would have expected for those two in the first rotation, but that less reflects conservative scoring than the performances, which were tight for both squads.

Oklahoma had the one stick out of six, which the judges were willing to go high for, but the rest were hoppy. UCLA was quite tight on bars until Kyla, not their usual, especially in those final cast handstands. Several missed their landings until Kyla as well, who pretty much saved that rotation score to keep things close.

Rotation 2

Nichols will be back in on bars for Oklahoma here. And the 10 barrier has already been broken to give permission.

Kramer is back in UCLA’s vault lineup.

Kramer – VT – UCLA – sticks with the full – it’s fine, clean shape, small hop back, a bit of piking. 9.750

Webb – UB -OU – gorgeous high Pak – toe shap 1/2, just a bit of ankles but solid – toe 1/2 to double front 1/2 out, doesn’t have the control on the landing this week, lunge back. 9.825

Hano – VT – UCLA – Y1.5 with a large bound forward this week – 9.825

Marks – UB – OU – great first hs – toe on to Maloeny to bail – pulls those feet together but there is an ankle break – borderline final cast –  FTDT, holds a staggered stick. 9.875

Wright – VT – UCLA – fairly large lunge forward on her 1.5, lunge and a slide with a back foot – knees deduction. 9.725

I like the amount of separation the vault judges are willing to create on these 1.5s.

Thomas – UB – OU – toe 1.2 to jaeger, solid – good cast hs out – bail, just a touch of floppiness in catching – DLO, gets the stick. 9.925

Dennis – VT – UCLA – Yfull with a bounce back – great dynamics as always – all of that was strong – opens out, but does have the hop. 9.875 is a bit high there. That was a full tenth hop for me.

Dowell – UB – OU – Ray, strong – good cast hs – toe to bail, solid position – a bit short on final cast hs – DLO, stuck it. Strong.

Ross – VT – UCLA – sticks her 1.5. Very nice. She has that little deeper bend to hold the stick again this week like her 10 from a few weeks ago, but this one is a little too low in the sit on landing for me. She showed up today. Amazing.

10.000. Not a 10 for me this time because of that little lean adjustment as she finessed that stick. It didn’t show total control.

Lehrmann – UB – OU – lovely jaeger – toe on to bail, super crisp legs together, excellent – FTDT, stuck. Excellent. 9.925

Tratz – VT – UCLA – strong enough full as usual – small hop back and a bit of chest forward body position – great height and distance. 9.775

Nichols – UB – OU – Ray to pak, exceptional – so high – toe shap 1/2 – excellent – short final cast hs – DLO, somehow managed to hold the stick for 80 hours despite being leaning a little back. A thing or two that they need to take, but great. 9.925.

After 2: Oklahoma 99.000, UCLA 98.525

Well, Kyla has two 10s. So that’s what’s happening. And UCLA needs it because everyone else has been just OK. Not the strongest vault landings from the rest of them to fall farther behind Oklahoma. Oklahoma goes 49.575 on bars after everyone scores 9.925 for everything. The handstands were stronger than UCLA’s, and they got a few more critical sticks, that accounts for the difference there. A cleaner, crisper rotation for Oklahoma.

They note how teams are all setting attendance records when UCLA comes to visit The view numbers on this site are also comically higher for live blogs involving UCLA than for any other team.

Rotation 3

Dowell – BB – OU – aerial to bhs series, had an arm wave after the aerial but will probably get credit for the series for continuing to move, which is a bad rule – switch to switch series, a bit low – larger balance check on Kochetkova – punch front full dismount with a hop. Not her strongest. A hit. 9.750

Confirmation that Showers is out with ACL.

Frazier – FX – UCLA – full in- stuck, excellent this week – split leap full to popa, strong – whip through to double tuck, keeps that front foot down – double pike, a little short with a small hop but overall her best landing control of the season. Kathy fangirling over this vogue femme routine makes me so happy. 9.825. That tells us that the scoring is trying to be sensible here. That would have been easily 9.9s at some UCLA home meets. Good. [Spoke too soon, obviously]

Lehrmann – BB – OU – full turn, smooth – bhs loso series, secure – aerial to beat jump, good extended legs – cat leap to switch side, extended – gainer full, step. Good. 9.875

Kramer – FX – UCLA – front 2/1 to front pike, sold the control – 1.5 to layout, crisp body shape on the layout throughout – excellent height on her switch side to popa – rudi to stretch jump, an excellent one for her. 9.925

Schoepfer – BB – OU – bhs bhs loso, secure this week, just a bit of knees. switch to straddle 1/4 with a big break, large leg-up wobble and lean to save it – 1.5, short with a step back. So that will be a lower score along with Brenna’s. No Trautman in the beam lineup this week. She’s not at 100%. 9.750. Could have gone lower there.

Tratz – FX – UCLA – full in, comes up short with a step forward – 1.5 to front full, secure landing, leg form on the full as she had to adjust to get it around – switch ring to split full, strong position – double tuck, controlled step. Some things on landings, but should still be usable. 9.850

Woodard – BB – OU – full turn – side aerial to bhs series and falls. Wow. Oklahoma letting UCLA back in this meet in the third rotation. Kickover front, strong – switch to split, a bittt of back leg on that split but overall the position is nice – side aerial to full, chest forward, leans to hold stick

Ross – FX – UCLA – whip to double tuck, chest up, controlled step – 1.5 to layout, also keeps that back foot down – split leap full to popa to shushunova – double pike, nailed the landing, chest a little forward. She’s having an excellent day.

Webb – BB – OU – full turn, a little tentative with a small lean – bhs loso, just moving back a little on that landing but not a check – cat to aerial, lovely aerial – switch to split leap, back leg on leap – side aerial to full, stuck. A slightly nervier performance for her, but a good hit.

It’s 9.975 for Ross. Someone was like NOT TODAY CAROL. It’s a good routine for Kyla, that has improved a ton in the tumbling and endurance, but it’s still a little normal in its composition, not standout difficulty, to get a 10 in this position of the lineup when narrative isn’t driving the scores.

Hano – FX – UCLA – DLO, a little chest, good control – punch full to 1/2 to running fish – 1920s mermaid – split leap full to wolf, a little travel in landings there, good positions – 9.925

Nichols – BB – OU – aerial to split, good positions but a flexed back foot this week – bhs loso series, covers with slamming the arms down so that she doesn’t really have a lean correction – good full turn – switch through to split leap, well done – 1.5, stuck landing. Excellent.

9.975 for Nichols.

Ohashi – FX – UCLA – split leg DLO, better layout position in second salto this week – front foot maybe going back a little bit, tried to keep that toe down – solidly performed middle pass as always – switch ring and splits, excellent – front full to 1/2 to drop split. Excellent again. I’d maybe have control on the first pass landing to take, but the score will be huge.

10.000. You knew. Third 10 of the day for UCLA.

We’re tied after 3: Oklahoma 148.200, UCLA 148.200

Oklahoma got saved by the Maggie there on beam, much like UCLA got saved by the Kyla on the first two events, because it was a pretty shaky rotation with a couple counting 9.7s to go 49.200. UCLA excelled on floor for 49.675. One of their strongest 1-6 floor rotations on the season in terms of the landings — Kramer, Ross, Hano, and Ohashi all totally delivered on those landing and Frazier had her best landing control. Moving forward there.

Advantage in a tie always to the home team on floor, but that’s where OU has had issues this season.

Rotation 4

G Glenn – BB – UCLA – bhs loso series, secure, perfect extension – aerial to split jump, nailed – switch to split, truly exceptional positions in the air – full turn with a little Peng style out – bhs gainer full, stuck. Excellent. 9.900

Webb – FX – OU – front 2/1, controlled step out, good height there – 1.5 to front full, also under control – split leap full and split jump full, feet – rudi, great twisting shape. Strong opener. 9.900

Nguyen – BB – UCLA – switch to split to beat, solid – aerial to loso combination with a little check in between that will risk credit – another little lean check afterward – solid on the side position jump – punch front full, stuck. The rest was great, let’s see what they do with the series. 9.775

Draper – FX – OU – 1/2 to rudi, secure landing, some knees – front full to layout, a bit of arch – switch to switch full, around, not quite all the way up. Solid. Some things. 9.900. Here we go. Carol’s here.

Kocian – BB – UCLA – bhs loso, another check, bend at the hips – aerial with a check, I’d say broken connection to split jump – full turn smooth – switch to split is nice. 1.5 dismount, small hop. More tentative beam work from Kocian. 9.825 is high. I didn’t have her starting from 10 because of the broken connection.

LaPinta – FX – OU – 3/1, the best she has done it, just a little slide back and some leg crossing but not too bad – 1.5 to layout, small arch – double tuck, solid – huge improvement for her. 9.875 still pretty high there.

Flatley – BB – UCLA – aerial to loso series, really smoothly connected, no question of credit – side aerial with a check – L turn to split jump to beat jump, great split – punch rudi dismount with a hop back. 9.825

Degouveia – FX – OU – front 2/1, only a bit of a dance out but pretty much showed control – front layout to front full, a bit of legs – switch and popa were exceptional, high and extended – back 1.5 to layout, traveling just a bit. Another solid one. 9.900

Ross – BB – UCLA – bhs loso series, smooth and nailed – aerial to sissone – full turn and choreograph out of it (a revelation) – switch to split, super high and excellent – side aerial to full, small step back. Oh Kyla, you almost had a third 10 there.

Oh 9.875 is surprisingly low for that one.

39.850 AA score for Ross, tying her season high

Dowell – FX – OU – Dowell, hit it, step forward but controlled the step out so well not to go OOB, still a deduction for the step – 1.5 to layout, perfect, stuck, straight position – front lay to front full to stag, excellent –

Ohashi – BB – UCLA – aerial to aerial to bhs series, not doing the layout, I actually like this composition better, scandalous I know – switch to split, strong – bhs loso to layout full, stuck, another excellent routine.

9.950 for Ohashi.

Trautman – FX – OU – DLO, great chest up, a slight foot adjustment – front lay to front full to sissone, powerful – split leap full to popa, great height – double tuck, a small hop back

9.950 for her as well.

FINAL: Oklahoma 197.775, UCLA 197.575

An appropriate result here. We had neither team at its very best, but Oklahoma was the better team in three of the four rotations we had. OU had some issues on beam, that was a surprisingly weak rotation, but floor was a lot better than it has been in recent weeks, and OU was the stronger of the two teams on vault and bars today by  a noticeable margin.

UCLA was a tale of two teams today. Ross and Ohashi showed up with great performances, but on VT/UB/BB, they didn’t really have the top-level routines from the rest of the performers (except for on floor) – there were tight routines, ones that didn’t allow Carol to truly Carol, and kept UCLA’s score down lower.

I have to say, we saw some crazy scores today, but overall it was pretty normal-top-ranked-team high, not on all the drugs like I expected.


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145 thoughts on “Sunday Live Blog – March 3, 2019”

  1. The line-ups UCLA just posted on Twitter have Toronjo in on bars and Gracie Kramer leading off on vault.

  2. If at least one of these teams doesn’t go 199 I’m going to be very disappointed.

      1. *in terms of how we wanted this to be the crack-fest of the century, not saying the gymnasts have been a major disappointment

  3. has anyone an international link to watch it? my espn only shows me soccer and ncaa basketball games

    1. I also laughed at Holly saying: “Of the 16 perfect 10s this year, 12 of the athletes who have those are here tonight.” No, Holly, the 12 10s between Oklahoma and UCLA definitely do not each come from a different athlete. 8 of the 12 come from 2 athletes…

      Also, “Brenna McDowell”

    2. She just said “Brenna McDowell.” I’m assuming she thinks it’s Andie MacDowell’s younger sister.

      What a 10 for Kyla on UB, though! Pristine.

  4. I’m pretty sure I’m seeing Bre Showers on the floor in warmups, so glad she’s still with/on the team even if she’s injured.

  5. I’m starting to get really frustrated with Kocian’s inconsistency. She has beautiful gymnastics and seems like the sweetest person, but she always seems to choke when it counts.

    1. Two not quite perfect handstands and a small movement on the dismount = choking? Somehow I doubt you hold yourself to the same standard in your daily life.

    2. I’m going to go out on a limb and say when you had a stress fractured FEMUR in the preseason, you can’t put in as many landings as you might like.

    3. She ALWAYS seems to choke when it counts? A bit of an overstatement. Paging 2016 Olympic games. Kocian has been injured for basically every second of her college career and still manages to show up and compete. Also – Kocian was most successful in elite due to her difficulty. Kyla was most successful in elite due to her execution. That translates to NCAA differently.

      1. My original comment was in reference to her NCAA career.

        “Choke” might be too strong a word, but she frequently has smallish errors that add up. More than anything it’s just disappointing to not see her hit her (lovely) skills as well as she can.

    4. Agree. I wamted to make this comment earlier in the season; like u said, though, she seems so sweet. I didnt want to write anything that sounded disparaging. She is an amazing athlete, but i wouldnt put her in a line up in a meet with too much riding on it.

      1. Her bars aren’t the problem, really. But I would take her out of the beam line-up. She hasn’t looked good on beam since freshman year.

      2. I agree that I’d consider taking her out of the beam line-up because she really hasn’t had a good routine all year and UCLA is very deep on beam, but if you also mean to apply this to bars, I completely disagree. She’s gone 9.9+ in 5 of 9 meets this year, and she hasn’t scored below 9.8. That’s quite strong. Sure, it’s not Kyla, but Kyla is the #1 athlete on bars in the country. Furthermore, if you take Kocian out of bars, who would you put in? It’s already not ideal that they have Hano and Toronjo in their line-up right now.

  6. Ew I did not like that UB from Marks! 9.875 seems like a really high score but I don’t really know what I’m talking about.

      1. +La MERDE Eating your own excrement for breakfast again, darling? You always have that certain STENCH about you….:)

  7. kylas 10 vaults have always been held in a deep squat – what are the judges on?

    1. They are not ALWAYS held in a deep squat, but I don’t blame you for being mad – that wasn’t a 10 vault.

  8. Okay, so they’ve gone for it twice already for Kyla, they opened the broadcast pushing for a 40 for her, I say Val puts her at the end of the floor lineup for score-bumping

    1. I was just thinking about this after their floor rotation 2day. I think we will see ross and ohashi flip flopped in next meet.

    1. I feel like there wasn’t any consistency on UCLA’s vault judging. Maybe we didn’t have the correct angle, but some of those scores seemed pretty low. Then Kyla was gifted with a 10… hmmm

  9. ugh if Kyla’s vault was a 10, so was Jade’s

    Just ignore me being the salty OU fan in the corner. I know I’m biased af, no need to tell me

    1. Jade’s vault was great, but she has leg separation on the table and not a lot of height. Kyla had a lean but better form and height.

  10. I swear if Kyla goes 40.00 I will scream… that vault was 9.95 for the lean on the landing

  11. Vault scores weird today…ucla a little underscored for pretty good fulls (except nia) but then kyla gets a 10 for a vault that should’ve gone 9.95

    1. Their whole story of the female phenom from the communist system and the all-American boy who were the WAG and MAG winners of the first American Cup and then went on to become husband and wife is the cutest thing ever

  12. Also, Lehrman’s bars score definitely seemed our of context with everyone else’s to me. (And I’m pretty sure her routine today was better than the one which got a 10.)

  13. Hasn’t Tratz been training the 1.5 for two years? Are we never gonna see it? Her bouncy full isn’t scoring well.

    1. I wish they would take her out of the floor lineup. I don’t like her routine at all.

      1. I thought she performed it well the first couple times, but she’s deflated a bit later in the season. Between her and Nia, it’s a bit six one-half dozen the other. She has more consistent smaller issues with her full-in, while Nia can go bigger but also has bigger problems as often as not. It seems to me you might as well go with Nia with the rest of the lineup, but you also can never tall what’s gonna happen on the day.

    2. I have thought the same thing all season. She doesn’t seem to be able to control that landing. I wish they’d either have her throw the 1.5 sometime or put in someone else.

      1. Right, Anna Glenn’s full is better and I feel like it scores higher. Or what happened to Poston? Most teams don’t ignore 10.0 start value vaults.

      2. I’m pretty sure the reason Anna Glenn isn’t in the line-up is because of tendonitis in her knee. If she were healthy, there’s no way she wouldn’t at least be in the bars line-up.

      3. That is good to know about her tendonitis. That’s unfortunate because I would put Anna in the vault, bars, and beam line-up. They could use those scores.

    3. She’s inherited Kyla’s mythical vault upgrade. I feel like there’s at least one every season at UCLA? And I also feel like Kyla’s has amounted better than most others, so maybe next year…

  14. So nice to see that UCLA aren’t (so far ) getting there usual pac 12 crack , I’m wearing a UCLA Leo therefore everthings over a 9.9 scoring except for Kyla’s vault.

    1. Ucla didn’t have the handstands or landings on uneven bars and didn’t have the landings on vault. That’s why their scores look the way they do. Do yourself a favor and actually learn something about deductions.

    2. It isn’t pac 12 crack. It’s UCLA crack. The other 7 teams have been 90 percent rational

  15. okay i’m sorry, i love kyla but she really shouldn’t be getting the same scores as sarah finnegan on floor. that routine going 9.975 is kind of crazy

    1. The problem there is the scoring of Finnegan, not the scoring of Ross. Finnegan absolutely should have had multiple floor 10s this year. But there were no deductions in Ross’s floor routine today that are being taken from other athletes’ routines. 9.975 was reasonable for Ross’s routine, but I totally agree that Finnegan has been getting hosed all year.

      1. What I meant is that I disagree with the original poster, who said “i love kyla but she really shouldn’t be getting the same scores as sarah finnegan on floor.” They’re two of the most comparable FX workers I can think of – medium-difficulty routines performed with beautiful execution. Maybe Finnegan has been getting lower scores comparatively (and prior to this year Ross was pretty unimpressive on floor), but Ross’s FX today actually was about as good as anything Finnegan does.

      2. @Anonymous at 2:35 Yep, I gotcha! My comment wasn’t in response to you, it was also in response to the original commenter. I actually typed out my comment before yours even showed up, my comment just took a little while to post and showed up underneath yours 🙂

      3. @Mary: Thank you, genuinely, for pointing out the issue is the crazy judges underscoring Sarah. I know that you’re not a UCLA fan, but it’s nice to see your willingness to defend Kyla’s execution. I love Kyla’s gymnastics, and I love Sarah’s gymnastics, and I want to see both women get all the things for sharing that beauty with us each week.

      4. @Mina Thank you for your kind words, but I don’t think I’m the Mary you’re thinking of. Judging by the sorts of comments I’ve noticed posted by people named “Mary” on this site, I’d guess that there are at least 4 of 5 of us with the name Mary posting on this site, if not more. If you’re thinking that I’m the Mary who dislikes UCLA’s celebrations after routines, I am not that Mary, I’m a different one.

      5. Haha, yes, we’re different people! I’m the one who doesn’t like UCLA, but I’m also the one who was strategizing how to get Kyla to a 40 if that still gets me “looking past my biases” points!

      6. To both commenters Mary: I still appreciate the willingness to point out that Kyla’s execution is gorgeous, and I’d say that strategizing to get Kyla to a 40 is definitely worth “looking past biases” points! Win-win-win!

    2. When comparing anyone to Finnnegan, the problem is that Finney rarely gets the scores she deserves. Compared to the rest of the top teams, she is chronically under-scored.

  16. Potentially unpopular opinion, but I take more issue with Ohashi’s floor 10 today than I do Ross’s vault 10 today.

      1. That’s not my complaint. I am against “difficulty deductions” that don’t actually exist in the code being taken from routines that start out of 10. If it meets the requirements to start out of 10, it should be scored out of 10. But she did not control the landing on that first pass. She slid on that landing, and it should’ve been deducted.

    1. I’m no UCLA fan, but I honestly don’t see why there’s so much criticism of Ohashi’s scores other than the constancy of the 10s. I do agree that if she hadn’t gone viral it would probably be more like 9.95 most weeks, but I don’t really see much there in terms of real deductions that actually get taken in college (at least for the showstopper routine at a top school). On the other hand, I have seen her landing control on her final pass brought up more than once, and I think the extra mat may be hindering my ability to judge that landing.

      1. The reason it gets criticized so much is because 3 out of her 4 10s have had a landing control issue on the first pass. In the meet against Washington, you can see that as she lands, she steps back with one foot (which is permissible without deduction), but her front foot slides backward across the floor. When the front foot slides in addition to the step back, that’s an uncontrolled landing, and it should be deducted. The same thing happened against Oklahoma today. Against Arizona, her step out of that pass went to the side. It is only properly called a controlled lunge if the athlete steps in the direction she was heading in (i.e. toward the corner she was tumbling toward). If she steps to the side or toward the corner she came from, that’s not a controlled lunge, that’s a deduction. Those things are being deducted from other athletes, her teammates included.

        Realistically, these are still excellent routines, and 9.95 would’ve been reasonable scores for them. But when the same athlete gets 4 10s and 3 of the routines had a noticeable error that others are being deducted for, it starts to grate on people. Especially when you consider that only 2 other 10s have been given out on floor all season. Certainly there have been many routines that have looked cleaner than a few of Ohashi’s 10s and not gotten a 10. It’s not unreasonable for people to conclude that all of the press attention given to her routine has gotten her some forgiveness for errors that others are being penalized for, and that’s not fair to other athletes.

        And I’m saying this all as a UCLA fan who absolutely loves Ohashi and her floor routine.

      2. Yep, based on your response, I’m assuming that the extra mat’s messing me up on the first landing. She’s definitely getting sparkle scoring, but I think that’s true beyond Ohashi, even if the 10 parade makes it the clearest with her.

  17. I don’t think I realized Oklahoma had this many injuries. This floor lineup is going to be interesting.

  18. I feel like some of these floor theme “descriptions” sound more like a game of mad libs.

  19. What is the required deduction for not hitting the split on floor ex. Hano has yet to hit a single one 9.925 is high without the split

  20. I would hate if the women have to go to what the men’s have with scoring. I love the scoring system now, but I feel with all this Caroling we will soon see a switch

  21. This is more a question than an angry comment, but how did Draper score so much higher than Frazier on floor?

  22. It’s nowhere near as important as the actual gymnastics, but man Oklahoma’s choreography is awkward to watch compared to UCLA’s (this year).

      1. No. Kocian had a bend at the hips, a broken connection, and a hop. Flatley was vastly and obviously superior.

  23. Bart- “One judge gave a 10 and the other a 9.90. And they average it out.” So that’s how Carol scores?

  24. 9.875 is disgustingly low for Kyla’s beam. Say what you want about her vault, but the beam score is incorrect.

    1. UCLA fans when UCLA is grossly over scored all year: Everything is fine.

      UCLA fans when Kyla Ross gets one, marginally scored routine: This is an outrage!! Scoring is crap! Revamp the system!

      1. UCLA fans on Kyla’s squatty vault: Hi. Who is Carol? I’m confused.
        UCLA fans on Kyla’s beam: #justice4Kyla, burn Carol at the STAKE.

      2. I rarely if ever hear UCLA fans defending their scoring. In fact, I hear quite a few people say “I’m a UCLA fan, but even that was too much for me.”
        No one defended her vault score either. I think you’re the one with the problem.

      3. The problem isn’t people defending or not defending her vault score. The problem is people complaining about her beam score after she gets the benefit of the doubt on other thing, like vault.

      4. Yeah, that’s silly. You can complain about a score without having to take into account every other time that gymnast has been over- or under-scored. People do this constantly for gymnasts from all different schools.

        I get that it’s annoying, but it’s not UCLA-specific. People bitch about Skinner’s VT scores all the time while happily accepting her BB scores.

  25. I think I agree that the teams were ranked correctly in the end, but nobody can complain about UCLA getting relatively generous scores. I think some of those OU floor scores were Caroly with Kyla’s 9.875 seeming a bit low in comparison.

    1. Yes, it’s like the judges realized they went too high on Kocian’s score and then lowballed the remainder of the rotation to make up for it.

      I’m torn because I do think Oklahoma deserved the win, but I also think their floor scores were a touch generous while several of UCLA’s beamers were underscored. But if you put those two things together, then you’d have UCLA winning. So… I guess I’ll just leave it without dissecting it too much. Although I can’t help but feel grumpy about Kyla’s beam, because I want her to have all the glory she deserves.

      1. IKR? Overscored on vault, underscored on beam, overscored by comparison with Finnegan etc on floor. UGH. I love Ross’ gymnastics and I wish Carol et al would get out of judging.

  26. I’m going to need Carol to show her work on Kyla’s beam deductions because I think they are made up (aside from the landing slide).

  27. UCLA handed the win away with their bars rotation. OU got some gifts on floor. Scoring aside, ESPN has the best gymnastics coverage. NBC needs to take notes.

  28. Scores didn’t make much sense. They started off fair in scoring, with a few harsh but mostly fair scores on bars and vault. Second rotation, Oklahoma got pretty fair scores and with UCLA they were harsh on everyone except Ross who got a 10. I got a 9.9 for that one, 9.95 at highest. Third rotation, Nichols and OU had the same experience with fair scoring, then Nichols does a pretty tentative routine with multiple visible errors on leaps and some of her positions and almost gets 10. UCLA lowballed Frazier but Tratz was a little over scored so it evened our. On floor for OU I felt that almost everyone was overscored and UCLA got underscored, especially at the end of the lineup. If Nichols gets a 9.975 for tentative, Ohashi should’ve get 10 in comparison. I actually would’ve given it to UCLA, Oklahoma got some gifts on floor.

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