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Embarrassment and Road Work

Is it bad that my ears grow eight sizes every time I hear the phrase “disciplinary reasons”?  Do go on…

They really shouldn’t let her wait a few days to do these press conferences.  We need gymnastike in there every week interviewing her immediately (Inexcusable!).

EHH hasn’t really been herself so far this year, so they shouldn’t suffer too much without her except for her consistency on beam.

The team is embarrassed by that tank.  So were we.

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In numbers news, I’ve been harping on the necessity to put up those usable road scores early on for RQS, so let’s take a look at the average road scores for the top 25 teams.

Average Road Score (as of January 31, 2012)
1. Arkansas – 196.575
2. Oklahoma – 196.417
3. Alabama – 196.250
4. Florida – 196.150
4. Georgia – 196.150
6. Utah – 196.075
7. Penn State – 195.792
8. Nebraska – 195.775
9. UCLA – 195.638
10. Ohio State – 195.392
11. Missouri – 195.125
12. LSU – 194.875
13. Arizona – 194.750
14. Stanford – 194.525
15. Denver – 194.517
16. Illinois – 194.388
17. Oregon State – 194.375
18. Auburn – 194.288
19. Iowa – 194.213
20. NC State – 194.138
21. Washington – 194.108
22. Boise State – 193.525
23. West Virginia – 193.475
24. Michigan – 193.150
25. Minnesota – 192.800

Monday Rankings

National Rankings – Week of January 30th
1. Utah – 196.992
2. Arkansas – 196.756
3. Florida – 196.563
4. Georgia – 196.519
5. Oklahoma – 196.444
6. Alabama – 196.325
7. UCLA – 196.231
8. Oregon State – 196.050
9. Nebraska – 195.900
10. Penn State – 195.869
11. Ohio State – 195.519
12. Stanford – 195.117
13. Auburn – 195.106
14. LSU – 194.900
15. Denver – 194.738
16. Boise State – 194.700
17. Missouri – 194.663
18. Arizona – 194.625
19. Illinois – 194.500
20. West Virginia – 194.444
21. Washington – 194.419
22. Michigan – 194.292
23. NC State – 194.250
24. Iowa – 194.181
25. Minnesota – 194.006

Full rankings at Troester

Let’s take a moment and think about how high these scores are.  Utah’s current average is higher than Florida’s was at this point last season, when everyone was raving about Florida running away with the title.  There has been no such discussion about Utah, and I suppose they do have to prove the ability to bring these scores on the road before we start talking about them as title contenders.

Even beyond the top spot, we have a marked increase.  Penn State’s current average puts them at 10th, but it would have been high enough for 5th at this point last season.  And yet, if we then move beyond the top 12, the scores level out in comparison to last year.  Once we get to the Denvers and Missouris and West Virginias of the world, we see that these schools are not getting the same bump in scoring as the top schools are.  So the rich are getting richer while the poorer stay the same.

Why?  There could be several reasons.  The first possible explanation is that the top teams are just more talented than they were last year, and that is reflected in the scores.  It’s quite true that the new freshmen are very strong and that almost all of the top schools have traded up from last year.  But if that is the reason, then the coaches as a whole should be concerned.  What has happened to the parity you all have been lauding for the past few years?  The top schools appear to be distancing themselves from the rest, and looking at incoming recruiting classes for next year, that isn’t changing.

But maybe that’s not the main reason.  Maybe it has more to do with the judges going overboard early in the year (an argument I would support).  But if that’s the case, shouldn’t all the schools be seeing an equal bump?  Maybe it’s just a home scoring issue, that charitable scores at home have increased even more this year for the top teams.  That’s also a major problem.  If only top schools get the benefit of the doubt (or the benefit of blindness), then that has a devastating effect on parity as well.

Other thoughts:

  • UCLA should be thanking their lucky stars that they are still in 7th after the score against Washington.  If they can pick things up against Stanford, they can prevent the same kind of toiling in 9th that they saw last season.
  • Speaking of Stanford, they are yet to break 196 with just six regular season meets remaining.  The time is now.
  • The biggest focus this weekend will be on Alabama, the only top school yet to break 197. Florida will be riding high after their most recent score and will come into Alabama with a ton of momentum.  Just as beating Arkansas at home was a huge confidence statement for Florida last week, beating Florida will be the same for Alabama this week.  A loss or low score will mean a lot of climbing uphill. 
  • Utah has a very strange schedule this year with a ton of home meets and only four road meets.  Expect them to put up another huge number against Georgia (expect both teams to do so), but then the pressure will really be on with road meets against Arizona State and Michigan (where it is particularly tough to score well) if they don’t want to plummet come RQS time.
  • We have a bunch of big rivalry meets this weekend, and scores always tend to go higher in those situations.  We’ll be on alert to see if anyone goes ahead of Florida’s 197.775.  I wouldn’t be surprised if someone does.  In fact, I would be quite surprised if someone doesn’t.  I’m hereby issuing a Severe 198 Warning for the Salt Lake City area on Friday evening between 6pm and 8pm local time.

Improvement Rankings (2012 vs. 2011)

Teams are ranked based on the difference between their average score after three weeks in 2012 and their average score after three weeks in 2011.  Teams appearing in either top 25 (2012 or 2011) are included in the list.

Improvement Rankings – 2012 vs. 2011
1. Arkansas +1.842 (196.775 vs. 194.933)
1. Penn State +1.842 (196.000 vs. 194.158)
3. UCLA +1.656 (196.775 vs. 195.119)
4. Nebraska +1.525 (196.575 vs. 195.050)
5. Arizona +1.281 (194.673 vs. 193.392)
6. Ohio State +1.108 (195.483 vs. 194.375)
7. Maryland +0.800 (194.008 vs. 193.208)
7. Alabama +0.800 (196.325 vs. 195.525)
9. Utah +0.780 (196.713 vs. 195.933)
10. LSU +0.675 (194.617 vs. 193.942)
11. Oklahoma +0.652 (196.433 vs. 195.781)
12. Missouri +0.625 (194.308 vs. 193.683)
13. Denver +0.554 (194.517 vs. 193.963)
14. Auburn +0.550 (194.725 vs. 194.175)
15. Boise State +0.500 (195.288 vs. 194.788)
16. Illinois +0.408 (194.900 vs. 194.492)
17. Oregon State +0.337 (195.675 vs. 195.338)
18. West Virginia +0.225 (194.000 vs. 193.775)
19. Georgia +0.087 (196.275 vs. 196.188)

20. NC State –0.542 (194.308 vs. 194.850)
21. Washington –0.550 (194.108 vs. 194. 658)
21. Florida –0.550 (196.158 vs. 196.708)
23. Iowa –0.617 (194.058 vs. 194.675)
24. Michigan –0.872 (194.325 vs. 195.197)
25. Minnesota –0.942 (193.625 vs. 194.567)
26. Southern Utah –0.983 (193.675 vs. 194.658)
27. Stanford –1.000 (195.413 vs. 196.413)
28. Iowa State –1.220 (193.263 vs. 194.483)
29. Kent State –1.920 (193.088 vs. 195.008)

Monday Rankings

National Rankings – Week of January 23rd
T1. UCLA – 196.775
T1. Arkansas – 196.775
3. Utah – 196.713
4. Nebraska – 196.575
5. Oklahoma – 196.433
6. Alabama – 196.325
7. Georgia – 196.275
8. Florida – 196.158
9. Penn State – 196.000
10. Oregon State – 195.675
11. Ohio State – 195.483
12. Stanford – 195.413
13. Boise State – 195.288
14. Illinois – 194.900
15. Arizona – 194.763
16. Auburn – 194.725
17. LSU – 194.617
18. Denver – 194.517
19. Michigan – 194.325
T20. Missouri – 194.308
T20. NC State – 194.308
22. Washington – 194.108
23. Iowa – 194.058
24. Maryland – 194.008
25. West Virginia – 194.000

Full rankings: Troester

A tie at the top, two different paths there.  Arkansas has done it with steady, impressive performances, while UCLA did it with one humongous score to leapfrog everyone it appeared would be above them.  The most encouraging part of yesterday’s meet for UCLA is that they were not great on the dismounts or even landing some of the tumbling passes with control.  Ostensibly, they could easily perform five tenths better than they did this week, which would put them into potential 198 territory at home or away at Georgia. Which leads us to the overarching question that has come up again and again this January: what do you do with those routines scoring 9.900-9.925 when the gymnasts actually starting hitting to full potential?  If the judging continues on this trajectory, we will have either a March of Tens or controversy over a January 9.925 still scoring 9.925 in March when the routine has improved.  Let’s all keep an eye on that moving forward.

Other thoughts:

  • Stanford has already used up two of their three home meets, and they have not broken 196. There will be a lot of pressure on their road scores because they will need to count more than three to have a respectable RQS.  Ivana Hong came in on vault this week and scored 9.800.
  • If not for the opening meet disaster, LSU would be in 10th.  As usual, vault is the strength, and that rotation is carrying their scores.  Imagine if they had Ranzy as well.
  • Florida has Arkansas at home followed by Alabama away in the next two weeks.  Time to initiate phase two of Operation Rhonda Peak.  If they are still scoring in the low 196s after the Alabama meet, then we start to worry.  Wang and Spicer are not cutting it yet, which will mean more pressure on the big five (Hunter, Dickerson, Caquatto, Johnson, King) to contribute on every event.  I can’t see them putting up those mid-197s until all five are at full potential.
  • Half of Georgia’s scores against Auburn were below 9.800.  Floor continues to be a major weakness.  They can do better, but can we even envision a lineup that could legitimately put up 49.400?  It would require Nuccio, Earls, Davis, and Worley all hitting to potential at the same time.  I’m not holding my breath.  Jay says they have more depth on floor than last year, and while it’s true they have more routines to choose from, do they really have any more depth? A 9.750 is not depth.