Oklahoma debuts in RQS with a total of 197.890, already just shy of the program-record RQS of 197.920. It would take a score of 197.850 this weekend against Georgia to set a new program-best mark. The all-time record is 198.055, which is not out of the question if these 198s continue.
198.350.
Maggie Nichols’ 39.925.
Nichols ranked #1 in the AA and on all four events.
Yeah.
2.
LSU
197.655
Road Score 1
197.700
Road Score 2
197.700
Road Score 3
197.575
Home/Road Score 1
197.975
Home/Road Score 2
197.825
Home/Road Score 3
197.475
LSU strengths hold on #2 after a two-meet weekend of 197.700/197.975.
High road scores provide separation over Florida, while lack of 198s contribute to the deficit to Oklahoma. The #2 ranking looks increasingly like LSU’s regular-season lot.
9.975s on FX from Gnat (meet 1) and Kelley (meet 2) lead the team, but Myia Hambrick continues her enigmatic mid-season roller coaster of falls. Beating OU will be tough under any circumstances, but it absolutely requires peak Hambrick in the AA, even if it means putting her back to the full on vault if that is more comfortable.
3.
Florida
197.435
Road Score 1
197.425
Road Score 2
197.325
Road Score 3
197.125
Home/Road Score 1
197.975
Home/Road Score 2
197.700
Home/Road Score 3
197.600
The Gators’ mediocre away 197.125 (that counts as mediocre now) sees them lose ground to LSU in the RQS race. The home scores are excellent, but those current road scores will get them no higher than third. Getting a high road total March 5th at LSU will be critical in Florida’s quest to pull a Captain Jack Harkness and hold off the 4-5-6.
Boren’s 39.500 AA, McMurtry’s 9.975 UB lead the way this week. Chant returns on VT, UB, while Baker remains limited to UB, BB.
4.
Alabama
197.085
Road Score 1
197.225
Road Score 2
197.050
Road Score 3
196.700
Home/Road Score 1
197.825
Home/Road Score 2
197.350
Home/Road Score 3
197.100
The introduction of RQS allows Alabama to move up two spots by virtue of having competed in more meets and being able to drop those low 195s scored during the weekend that shall not be named.
One score in the upper-197 range, however, won’t be able to sustain this ranking against the push from UCLA and Utah, so Alabama still needs to get out of this lower-197 streak over the next few weeks.
Nickie Guerrero’s “you started celebrating too early so you only get a 9.975” and Winston’s 39.500 AA were Alabama’s highs in a comfortable 197.350 win over Auburn.
5.
Utah
196.965
Road Score 1
197.150
Road Score 2
196.900
Road Score 3
196.525
Home/Road Score 1
197.875
Home/Road Score 2
197.625
Home/Road Score 3
196.625
Utah stays at #5 despite the completely controversy-free, gentle stroll through the meadow against UCLA that resulted in a 197.875 and had no issues for us to talk about at all. Road scores need to improve to expect to move any higher or fend off UCLA for long.
Skinner’s 39.675 AA and 9.9s on three events were the scoring highlights. Plus, everyone got a career-high on floor, even Tom and that PA lady.
6.
UCLA
196.935**
Road Score 1
197.500
Road Score 2
197.325
Road Score 3
197.150
Home/Road Score 1
198.125
Home/Road Score 2
196.825
Home/Road Score 3
195.875
**This is different from UCLA’s official weekly total because it includes Monday’s meet against Bridgeport/USU. That score doesn’t change the ranking, however, because it was horrible.
Ross brought the biggest highlights for UCLA over the weekend with her second-career 10 on UB on Saturday and her first-career 10 on BB on Monday.
UCLA had a 197 going on Monday until the D-team floor lineup fell three times for 48.000. Macy Toronjo, however, did debut with an excellent FX for 9.900. Get her in the real lineup.
The Bruins will take heart from being so close to Alabama and Utah while still counting a ratty 195.
7.
Georgia
196.735
Road Score 1
196.975
Road Score 2
196.800
Road Score 3
196.525
Home/Road Score 1
197.075
Home/Road Score 2
196.875
Home/Road Score 3
196.500
Georgia’s ascent up the rankings this week is essentially an advertisement for RQS, which once and for all allows everyone to pretend that first-meet 193 never happened. Suddenly, RQS looks totally fine, if a little lacking in the big numbers needed to challenge for a spot in the top 6.
The 196.975 from Friday is Georgia’s away-high this season, led by three scores in the 9.9s from Rachel Dickson.
Snead continued her gradual return, competing VT and UB.
8.
Denver
196.550
Road Score 1
196.875
Road Score 2
196.500
Road Score 3
195.900
Home/Road Score 1
197.150
Home/Road Score 2
197.125
Home/Road Score 3
196.350
Denver uses another 197 to leapfrog a bunch of other contending teams, predominantly because Denver doesn’t have the same degree of unfortunate 195s overstaying their welcome. With five meets left, Denver doesn’t yet have to count anything under the 197s.
Maddie Karr scored a 10.000 on VT with her Y1.5 to lead the team to a season-high 197.150, supported by 9.925s from Addison (FX) and Ross (BB).
9.
Michigan
196.500
Road Score 1
196.475
Road Score 2
196.025
Road Score 3
195.725
Home/Road Score 1
197.225
Home/Road Score 2
197.225
Home/Road Score 3
197.050
A season-high-tying 197.225 doesn’t prevent Michigan from dropping in the rankings because of the increased emphasis RQS places on road performance. Michigan’s home scores are competitive for a spot in the top 6, but the road scores are and will continue to be a hindrance to maintaining a place in the top 10 because the next two meets are at home.
McLean was the star of the show over the weekend, upgrading to her 1.5 for 9.975 on VT and leading the FX rotation with 9.900.
10.
Oregon State
196.370
Road Score 1
196.825
Road Score 2
196.200
Road Score 3
195.575
Home/Road Score 1
196.900
Home/Road Score 2
196.700
Home/Road Score 3
196.550
The Beavs’ five-week run of 196s gets them into the top 10 with the potential to move higher because of that 195.5, a score we’d expect to be dropped this coming weekend in a visit to Stanford.
Gardiner’s 9.950 on BB led event scores, and Gardiner and McMillan shared the AA title with 39.425.
That Cal PA announcer will be figuring out the bars lineup any minute now.
11.
Kentucky
196.360
Road Score 1
196.950
Road Score 2
196.150
Road Score 3
195.850
Home/Road Score 1
197.475
Home/Road Score 2
197.100
Home/Road Score 3
195.750
Once again this weekend, Kentucky was send to bed with its chronic case of Sudden 195-itis. This is happening a little too often, and those bouts with 195s account for Kentucky’s drop in the rankings. RQS is Kentucky’s friend this season because it allows all those scores to be dropped in time, as long as Kentucky hits two of the next four meets, particularly those last two road encounters.
Dukes led the AA bunch this week with 39.225, which quite is low by Kentucky’s standards as Hyland, Korth, and Stuart all had errors.
12.
Boise State
196.330
Road Score 1
197.075
Road Score 2
196.700
Road Score 3
196.400
Home/Road Score 1
197.025
Home/Road Score 2
196.225
Home/Road Score 3
195.300
Boise State has competed in fewer meets than most of the other top schools and therefore has not yet been able to drop that opening-weekend 195.3. Hence the fall to 12th. With that score presumably going away this weekend, Boise State is poised to gain a couple spots and could challenge for the top 10 again even with only a mid-196.
No surprise that UB was the highest-scoring event en route to the 196.700 this week, with McGregor’s 9.900 leading the way.
13.
Missouri
196.020
Road Score 1
196.350
Road Score 2
196.225
Road Score 3
196.075
Home/Road Score 1
196.225
Home/Road Score 2
195.850
Home/Road Score 3
195.725
Missouri’s consistency of scoring in the low 196s is both its asset and curse. For now, it accounts for the rise in ranking as we switch to RQS because of the absence of a counting disaster. In time, however, those already-bold 196.2-196.3 scores will be trouble since many of the teams ranked below have better bold scores.
Missouri’s 196.350 ranked last in the GymQuarters quad but was still a season-high (because of GymQuarters) and did feature Aspen Tucker’s 9.925 on VT.
14.
Auburn
196.015
Road Score 1
196.450
Road Score 2
196.400
Road Score 3
195.800
Home/Road Score 1
196.075
Home/Road Score 2
196.075
Home/Road Score 3
195.725
Quite like Missouri, Auburn was able to wrench out a season-high over the weekend of 196.450, which creates a relatively even RQS picture and a total over 196. The absence of big totals will become a problem soon.
Auburn did not end up challenging Alabama much in the loss on Friday, but 9.900s from Engler (UB) and Krippner (FX) did stand out.
15.
Nebraska
195.985
Road Score 1
197.125
Road Score 2
196.550
Road Score 3
196.050
Home/Road Score 1
196.825
Home/Road Score 2
195.700
Home/Road Score 3
194.800
With a significant increase in quality over the last couple meets, Nebraska has recorded some very competitive totals that rank ahead of what the likes of Missouri and Auburn have been scoring, but actually moving ahead is all dependent on dropping that 194.800 that’s currently keeping them down. Three chances.
The season-high 197.125 came on the back of a 9.9-a-thon on FX, led by 9.950 from Houchin.
16.
George Washington
195.970
Road Score 1
196.150
Road Score 2
196.100
Road Score 3
196.000
Home/Road Score 1
196.400
Home/Road Score 2
196.050
Home/Road Score 3
195.550
Two scores, both over 196, resurrected GW from last week’s drop to create quite an appealing and even RQS picture with no rough numbers. Right now, it’s just shy of the level it should take to get a seeded place at regionals, which is a bit farther into the 196s.
The 9.925 VT and 39.350 AA score from Winstanley led GW to a middle-child finish in the LSU tri-meet on Sunday, only a couple counting 9.6s away from a truly high total.
17.
Iowa
195.950
Road Score 1
196.400
Road Score 2
196.175
Road Score 3
195.725
Home/Road Score 1
196.475
Home/Road Score 2
195.975
Home/Road Score 3
195.475
Iowa finally breaks out of the 22nd-place box after another 196.4 on Friday. The team is aided by a solid balance of useful home and away scores and being able to drop its weakest performances, scores that still afflict a number of other teams hovering around the high teens.
The fall-laden 194.200 on Sunday at LSU was not a particularly auspicious result, but thanks to the magic of RQS, it has been quietly removed and no one is the wiser.
18.
Washington
195.875
Road Score 1
195.825
Road Score 2
195.325
Road Score 3
195.175
Home/Road Score 1
197.175
Home/Road Score 2
196.750
Home/Road Score 3
196.300
Welcome to the frustration of trying to explain RQS rankings to people who don’t know anything, as Washington recorded a massive 197.175 over the weekend and promptly fell four places in the rankings and lost ground to teams that scored much worse. Congratulations!
The reason: road scores. RQS protects against teams that only score well at home, and right now Washington is in that position. There will be no moving up until those low 195s go away.
Burleson’s 39.575 AA score tied for the third-highest in the country over the weekend. The country.
19.
Cal
195.785
Road Score 1
195.725
Road Score 2
195.550
Road Score 3
195.325
Home/Road Score 1
197.075
Home/Road Score 2
196.300
Home/Road Score 3
196.025
See: Washington. Cal, too, managed to reach the 197s for the first time this year and fall in the rankings regardless because of low away scores. If Cal wants to ensure a seeded spot at regionals this year, that means three 196s from the three remaining road meets.
Alicia Gallarzo’s 9.925 on UB during that “who am I, where am I” bars rotation just edged out a number of other 9.900s for the team’s high score of the weekend.
20.
Ohio State
195.595
Road Score 1
196.450
Road Score 2
195.950
Road Score 3
194.375
Home/Road Score 1
196.075
Home/Road Score 2
195.800
Home/Road Score 3
195.775
OSU will finish the season with three consecutive road meets, and pretty much the entire ranking outlook depends on dropping that 194.375 during one of those meets because otherwise hanging around a 196 final total seems plausible.
Ohio State just edged out West Virginia at home over the weekend thanks to two 9.9s and a 39.375 AA total from Mattern.
21.
Arkansas
195.535
Road Score 1
196.375
Road Score 2
195.350
Road Score 3
195.025
Home/Road Score 1
196.275
Home/Road Score 2
195.825
Home/Road Score 3
195.200
Arkansas will want to erase last weekend’s 195.200 as soon as possible (along with that still-counting 195.025), but TEAM HOGS nonetheless moves up for the time being. The trouble may come when the teams ranked below drop their 194s, which means Arkansas needs to get back on the 196 train the next couple weeks on the road to fend them off..
Yamzon’s 39.300 AA and Nelson’s 9.900 FX led the team over the weekend, but weren’t able to make up for a beam implosion.
22.
Illinois
195.495
Road Score 1
196.050
Road Score 2
195.300
Road Score 3
194.200
Home/Road Score 1
196.550
Home/Road Score 2
196.025
Home/Road Score 3
195.900
Illinois’s season-high 196.550 is a score much more befitting of the expectations we have for the Illinois program, but a couple disastrous early-season away scores remain a giant problem. Illinois does benefit from having five meets left instead of four, still with several more chances to drop all the unfortunate totals.
9.925s were big the winners for the Illini over the weekend, from both Hodan on BB and Leduc on FX.
23.
New Hampshire
195.290
Road Score 1
196.075
Road Score 2
195.075
Road Score 3
194.700
Home/Road Score 1
196.450
Home/Road Score 2
195.425
Home/Road Score 3
195.175
New Hampshire is back! The 196.450 home score and season-high on Sunday vaulted UNH into the top 25 by way of finally being able to make the back-to-back 193s to start the season go far, far away.
Mulligan recorded yet another 9.900 on UB, as we’ve come to expect, but this time she was joined by Doolin’s 9.900 on FX and a very competitive 39.400 AA score from Pflieger.
24.
Utah State
195.595**
Road Score 1
195.725
Road Score 2
195.700
Road Score 3
195.300
Home/Road Score 1
196.300
Home/Road Score 2
195.850
Home/Road Score 3
195.400
**This score differs from Utah State’s official weekly ranking because it includes Monday’s 195.700 at UCLA, which brings USU up to 195.595 and would mean a ranking of #21 if it were included in the rankings.
It was a significant weekend for Utah State as a home 196.300 allowed for dropping a 191 and Monday’s performance allowed for dropping a 194.0. Suddenly, Utah State is a thing.
24.
Iowa State
195.270
Road Score 1
196.125
Road Score 2
195.350
Road Score 3
194.325
Home/Road Score 1
195.775
Home/Road Score 2
195.625
Home/Road Score 3
195.275
ISU will use this 195.625 from its final home meet of the season but would have been hoping for more reinforcements before heading out on a series of away meets since most of the other teams in the top 25 currently have more and higher 196s. Erasing that 194.3 is essential, but so is erasing those lower 195s if this ranking is to be maintained.
Haylee Young did manage another 9.900 on BB and a 39.425 in the AA to save a result that could have gone in a very troubling direction without her.
Note that Southern Utah is not included here after starting the season two weeks late and not yet having enough road meets to be eligible for RQS.
Also note that Eastern Michigan‘s 196.000 from Monday would see it go into 24th place, ahead of New Hampshire and Iowa State, were those scores included in the week’s rankings.
The introduction of RQS this week didn’t change much at the very top of the rankings, but it did produce quite a few shakeups lower down. Benefiting were teams that have competed in more than six meets so far and can drop their weak scores, like Georgia, as well as teams with relatively even home and away totals, like Missouri and Iowa.
By contrast, switching to RQS was trouble for teams that haven’t competed in as many meets so far—most notably Southern Utah because of not being in the rankings at all, but also teams like Boise State that are still beset by one low score hanging around. Also hurt were Washington and Cal, whose reliance on home scores to bump up those totals was exposed by the switch to RQS. Road work to do there.
Maggie Nichols went 39.925 in the all-around. So that happened. As far as I can tell, it’s the highest AA score since Mohini Bhardwaj went 39.975 in 2001, though there may be other AA totals from postseason meets or non-RQS gymnasts in the intervening period that have gone unnoticed because they don’t show up in the official AA rankings. Nichols received a 10 on each event from at least one judge, which brings about a little germ of a thought about whether she can match Karin Lichey’s 40 at some point in the four years. But no matter how well Nichols performs, getting a 40 is going to depend much more on judging standards, rising scores, crowds, and the basic human need for attention than it will on anything Maggie herself does.
Between the GymQuarters Invitational and that meet at Utah, the nation’s judge-crack problem shows no signs of abating. The challenge of a generation.
Finger-gate. It’s just the weirdest thing. I fundamentally don’t understand, both in gymnastics or in any other context. “I’m just so mad at these scores I’m gonna….I’m gonna…raise a finger at you!” Are you 9? If you’re going to be an asshole, at least be an asshole like a grownup. Though if you want to turn UCLA/Utah into Sarah/Suzanne, this is a great place to start.
Unheralded stars of the week Gymnasts from schools outside the top 25 who scored over 9.900
Caroline Morant, Brown – 9.925, FX Brown! This score tied the program record for floor, which is kind of hard to do at Brown because of that year Alicia phoned it in for a second.
Khazia Hislop, North Carolina – 9.925, FX
Morgan Lane, North Carolina – 9.925, FX Not even for beam! UNC currently sits 35th and right on the cusp of making it back to regionals for the first time since 2013.
Chloe Cluchey, West Virginia – 9.925, FX WVU got bumped out of the top 25 this week because of having a few too many 194s still in the picture but seems a likely contender to return in coming weeks.
Katy Clements, Central Michigan – 9.925, BB It’s surprising that Central Michigan isn’t better than 36th considering how many of their scores appear on this list each week, but this weekend’s 195.775 is a step.
Rachel Stypinski, Kent State – 9.925, FX Obviously.
Brianna Tsang, Penn State – 9.925, BB If Penn State were actually to muster six whole people able to survive this program in any given week, we might not be in this position. I’m not holding my breath.
Kendall Valentin, Eastern Michigan – 9.925, UB She’s reaching Stypinski levels on this list.
Jessie Peszek, Western Michigan – 9.925, UB Previous career high was 9.875.
Alexis Brown, UC Davis – 9.925, FX Davis is currently just a tenth behind Stanford in RQS, and you can bet that’s a mouthwatering prospect.
And yes, Stanford is currently outside the top 25, but I refuse to put Elizabeth Price and her bars 9.950 in any list of “unheralded” gymnasts.
38 thoughts on “Week 7 Rankings, Notes, RQS Update”
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Good call on Stanford. If anyone can copy the Kentucky gymnast (Jenny Hanson) from years ago and go to NCAAs without a team and win the AA title it’s Price.
Heck, perhaps a solo Price at NCAAs will score 10s on vault, bars and floor and a 9.95 on beam.
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Have her rotate with Oklahoma, LSU, Florida, or UCLA! She would definitely get the high scores then!
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But it would be a better story if she rounded with a Boise St. or Denver or surprise NCAA qualifier Washington.
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True, but are we even sure Price will compete AA this year? She seems to have near constant injuries and I fear the Stanford coaches will start to get desperate and will bring her back before she’s ready leading to something more serious.
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I can see the Stanford coaches actually limiting Price this year to vault/bars and maybe just a FT on vault, since they have to know this is a down year.
But the current freshman are actually pretty good and next year’s freshman class is supposed to be really good, so they could want a strong and healthy Price as a senior with lots of good freshmen/sophomores.
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AHHH UCLA. When I was watching today I said to myself oh, the can even count a fall on floor (or even just 1 less fall) and go mid-196… and look what happened.
But yay Macy!
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The real miracle is that their floor total could very well have been worse as they took Sonya out of the line-up and put in Ohashi and her 9.9. UCLA and floor..*sigh*
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Anyone else like the looks of the Washington Regional if the RQS standings were to remain somewhat the same as today?
@ Washington would be:
6 – UCLA
7 – Georgia
17 – Washington (host)
18 – Cal
Minnesota
31 Stanford
Both UCLA and Georgia are possibilities for having a disaster rotation and Washington is much improved this year and score better at home than on the road, plus Cal, Minnesota and Stanford are all capable of being out of things early for a 193 or 194 or having a shockingly good 197 meet.
Plus then it might pit the Gymdogs against the Gymdogs for the 2nd seed, assuming the judges get 10-happy for UCLA’s Olympians.
Speaking of similar nicknames: When is the SEC going to have a Tri-meet to determine what Tiger is the fiercest? LSU. Auburn. Missouri.
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I’d like that but… no way will it happen. UCLA will probably jump to 4 this weekend with a home meet chance to drop the 195, and Washington has two road meets next and will probably jump 3-4 spots too.
(Plus, they don’t score significantly better at home, and longtime Washington fans have always bemoaned the total lack of home scoring – they usually average .3-.4 better in road meets! The scores are a bit misleading in that respect – the team just started performing way better in the last month, and the one away meet in that time had a fluke fall situation :P)
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Don’t forget about Jessie Peszek (yes, Sam’s sister) from Western Michigan who got a 9.925 on bars this weekend for a career high!
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If she keeps getting scores like that she’ll be a Gator in 2018… Hey Florida went “shopping” at Eastern Michigan last year, so why not try the Western side of the state this year. 🙂
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At the risk of sounding like an asshole, I wish UCLA would tell that volunteer coach(?) who acts like a hype man to chill out a bit.
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Ha, but every routine deserves a 10! They seriously start yelling ten after nearly every routine. It’s so annoying!
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It is annoying when they yell 10 after every single routine.
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Yes, forget about chalk. I wish the NCAA would crack down on teams trying to influence judges with the 10 hands and shouting 10 BEFORE the score is put up. It should be an automatic .3 deduction for teams that do it.
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UCLA and Florida are the worst at this!!! Every meet. Every rotation.
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If nothing else good came out of that disaster of a floor rotation for UCLA, I hope it will at least indicate to them that they need to get Stella Savvidou out of the floor lineup. It pains me to say that because her routine is beautiful and she has such nice lines and toe point, but she has had ample opportunity to prove herself and just doesn’t seem to be able to deliver.
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Eh, I think they know what they’re doing. We said the exact same thing about her bars last year and that turned out fine. She just takes a while to get comfy competing.
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Out of all the girls with floor disasters, Stella’s was the least disastrous – and she competed floor twice in one weekend (as well as twice on bars and debuted vault). All in all not the worst offender of a disastrous floor.
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As a veteran NCAA gymnastics watcher I will say the floor lineups UCLA and Alabama put out during the regular season usually look very different in the postseason. And in Alabama’s case they’ll debut a new routine on beam in postseason (It might’ve been SECs but I think it was NCAA semis) – talking about M-L Sanders here.
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@Anonymous You’re right that she was the least catastrophic of the floor disasters, but my problem with her floor performance is far beyond just yesterday. She’s competed floor 6 times this year, and 4 of her scores have been 9.70 or lower. One of the remaining 2 was a 9.80, which for a team with as much talent and depth on floor as UCLA, is not extremely impressive (though I don’t mean to say it’s bad). She did have one 9.925, but that was also during the meet where everybody from UCLA got 9.9+ for saluting. I hope Rebecca is right and she just takes a while to get the hang of it because I really do love her floor routine and the beautiful way she performs it, but it’s starting to look like poor floor scores are the rule and not the exception for her.
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I agree and I would replace her with Toronjo. A rotation consisting of Ohashi, Toronjo, Honest, Cipra, Kocian, and Mossett would be great. Then you would have Savvidou, Meraz, Hall, and Ross as back ups (or as a lead in place of Ohashi if necessary)
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You could also throw Preston into the regular floor lineup, assuming she has healed well enough to do that. She did floor in the first meet of the year, and it was a very nice routine.
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Honest is almost as inconsistent. If you’re taking Stella out, which I don’t disagree with, Honest should be taken out too.
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Also, competing exactly once is not exactly consistent – I’d wait on Toronjo before assuming she’s the saviour of the lineup.
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No one is saying Toronjo is the savior of the lineup. I, however, would give her an honest shot at the lineup. Savvidou is gorgeous, but her floor performances have been riddled with inconsistency. That would make me nervous come post-season. A 9.7 or 9.6 (heck a 9.8) won’t cut it against OU or LSU. Compete Toronjo during the next couple meets and see if she can hit consistently. If she can, she deserves to be in. Savvidou has had multiple chances.
UCLA has a lot of options on floor, but only about 3/4 guaranteed hits.
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I felt like the difference in scoring standards was super apparent this weekend. Granted, the scoring for UCLA/Utah was out.of.control but we’ve been saying that for a while now. Compare those scores to say the Kent State/Central Michigan competition and you can really see how unfair those high scores are. Particular on beam where Peng, Kyla, and Katelyn all had visible errors and still scored above 9.8. Compare that to Kent’s beam rotation (I felt Fabry and Hardison were underscored–at least by a tenth each–but can’t find the video) and you see how an overhaul to implement consistent scoring needs to happen.
Especially when Kent lost to Central by a tenth, some of these tight scores (when other teams are scoring ridiculously high) can be really impactful.
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Are NCAA judges specific to a conference during the regular season? For example, does an SEC judge only go to SEC schools? Etc for the the other conferences.
If that is the case, the NCAA could pool the judges and send ones from different areas to the meets – so the judges at UGA for a meet would be from across the US (New Hampshire, Florida, Colorado, Michigan, etc.).
The judges should also receive meet report cards from the head judge (who evaluates everyones work based on committee reports) and this way the top judges will get the plush postseason assignments at Conference champions, Regionals and Nationals and Super Six.
Gracie Kramer fell out of bounds on her middle pass, Kyla Ross fell on her last pass, Janay Honest put her hands down on her last pass (not technically a fall, but close to one), and Stella Savvidou didn’t fall, but she went out of bounds on her middle pass and landed low and stepped forward on her last pass.
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Janay fell on her last past more than just touched down, Ross came closer to just touching down.
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It may not be a fall where the athlete is sitting on the mat, but hands down is still a five tenths deduction and considered a fall.
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I think I have mentioned this before but I have Majesta Valentine from West Chester on my fantasy team with a 9.925 on fx a few weeks back and nothing lower than a 9.8 since. And I’m loving Caroline Morant! She has been a solid contributor to my fantasy gym roster too.
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Same here! I actually had Majesta fairly high up on my draft list (as she’s easily their best gymnast and is never not going to do the AA), so I’ve been feeling like a genius.
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BREAKING NEWS: Claire Boyce (UF Gators, senior) is hanging up her leotard for medical reasons but will stay with the team as a student coach.
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Bummer. She looked like she was in pain when she competed this year. I’m sure it was a hard decision, but it’s a smart one. No point in risking long-term health for a few more meets this year. I, however, wish she could do one event on senior night.
Bless you. You do God’s work. I’ve learned so much about this sport from you.
Good call on Stanford. If anyone can copy the Kentucky gymnast (Jenny Hanson) from years ago and go to NCAAs without a team and win the AA title it’s Price.
Heck, perhaps a solo Price at NCAAs will score 10s on vault, bars and floor and a 9.95 on beam.
Have her rotate with Oklahoma, LSU, Florida, or UCLA! She would definitely get the high scores then!
But it would be a better story if she rounded with a Boise St. or Denver or surprise NCAA qualifier Washington.
True, but are we even sure Price will compete AA this year? She seems to have near constant injuries and I fear the Stanford coaches will start to get desperate and will bring her back before she’s ready leading to something more serious.
I can see the Stanford coaches actually limiting Price this year to vault/bars and maybe just a FT on vault, since they have to know this is a down year.
But the current freshman are actually pretty good and next year’s freshman class is supposed to be really good, so they could want a strong and healthy Price as a senior with lots of good freshmen/sophomores.
AHHH UCLA. When I was watching today I said to myself oh, the can even count a fall on floor (or even just 1 less fall) and go mid-196… and look what happened.
But yay Macy!
The real miracle is that their floor total could very well have been worse as they took Sonya out of the line-up and put in Ohashi and her 9.9. UCLA and floor..*sigh*
Anyone else like the looks of the Washington Regional if the RQS standings were to remain somewhat the same as today?
@ Washington would be:
6 – UCLA
7 – Georgia
17 – Washington (host)
18 – Cal
Minnesota
31 Stanford
Both UCLA and Georgia are possibilities for having a disaster rotation and Washington is much improved this year and score better at home than on the road, plus Cal, Minnesota and Stanford are all capable of being out of things early for a 193 or 194 or having a shockingly good 197 meet.
Plus then it might pit the Gymdogs against the Gymdogs for the 2nd seed, assuming the judges get 10-happy for UCLA’s Olympians.
Speaking of similar nicknames: When is the SEC going to have a Tri-meet to determine what Tiger is the fiercest? LSU. Auburn. Missouri.
I’d like that but… no way will it happen. UCLA will probably jump to 4 this weekend with a home meet chance to drop the 195, and Washington has two road meets next and will probably jump 3-4 spots too.
(Plus, they don’t score significantly better at home, and longtime Washington fans have always bemoaned the total lack of home scoring – they usually average .3-.4 better in road meets! The scores are a bit misleading in that respect – the team just started performing way better in the last month, and the one away meet in that time had a fluke fall situation :P)
Don’t forget about Jessie Peszek (yes, Sam’s sister) from Western Michigan who got a 9.925 on bars this weekend for a career high!
If she keeps getting scores like that she’ll be a Gator in 2018… Hey Florida went “shopping” at Eastern Michigan last year, so why not try the Western side of the state this year. 🙂
At the risk of sounding like an asshole, I wish UCLA would tell that volunteer coach(?) who acts like a hype man to chill out a bit.
Ha, but every routine deserves a 10! They seriously start yelling ten after nearly every routine. It’s so annoying!
It is annoying when they yell 10 after every single routine.
Yes, forget about chalk. I wish the NCAA would crack down on teams trying to influence judges with the 10 hands and shouting 10 BEFORE the score is put up. It should be an automatic .3 deduction for teams that do it.
UCLA and Florida are the worst at this!!! Every meet. Every rotation.
If nothing else good came out of that disaster of a floor rotation for UCLA, I hope it will at least indicate to them that they need to get Stella Savvidou out of the floor lineup. It pains me to say that because her routine is beautiful and she has such nice lines and toe point, but she has had ample opportunity to prove herself and just doesn’t seem to be able to deliver.
Eh, I think they know what they’re doing. We said the exact same thing about her bars last year and that turned out fine. She just takes a while to get comfy competing.
Out of all the girls with floor disasters, Stella’s was the least disastrous – and she competed floor twice in one weekend (as well as twice on bars and debuted vault). All in all not the worst offender of a disastrous floor.
As a veteran NCAA gymnastics watcher I will say the floor lineups UCLA and Alabama put out during the regular season usually look very different in the postseason. And in Alabama’s case they’ll debut a new routine on beam in postseason (It might’ve been SECs but I think it was NCAA semis) – talking about M-L Sanders here.
@Anonymous You’re right that she was the least catastrophic of the floor disasters, but my problem with her floor performance is far beyond just yesterday. She’s competed floor 6 times this year, and 4 of her scores have been 9.70 or lower. One of the remaining 2 was a 9.80, which for a team with as much talent and depth on floor as UCLA, is not extremely impressive (though I don’t mean to say it’s bad). She did have one 9.925, but that was also during the meet where everybody from UCLA got 9.9+ for saluting. I hope Rebecca is right and she just takes a while to get the hang of it because I really do love her floor routine and the beautiful way she performs it, but it’s starting to look like poor floor scores are the rule and not the exception for her.
I agree and I would replace her with Toronjo. A rotation consisting of Ohashi, Toronjo, Honest, Cipra, Kocian, and Mossett would be great. Then you would have Savvidou, Meraz, Hall, and Ross as back ups (or as a lead in place of Ohashi if necessary)
You could also throw Preston into the regular floor lineup, assuming she has healed well enough to do that. She did floor in the first meet of the year, and it was a very nice routine.
Honest is almost as inconsistent. If you’re taking Stella out, which I don’t disagree with, Honest should be taken out too.
Also, competing exactly once is not exactly consistent – I’d wait on Toronjo before assuming she’s the saviour of the lineup.
No one is saying Toronjo is the savior of the lineup. I, however, would give her an honest shot at the lineup. Savvidou is gorgeous, but her floor performances have been riddled with inconsistency. That would make me nervous come post-season. A 9.7 or 9.6 (heck a 9.8) won’t cut it against OU or LSU. Compete Toronjo during the next couple meets and see if she can hit consistently. If she can, she deserves to be in. Savvidou has had multiple chances.
UCLA has a lot of options on floor, but only about 3/4 guaranteed hits.
I felt like the difference in scoring standards was super apparent this weekend. Granted, the scoring for UCLA/Utah was out.of.control but we’ve been saying that for a while now. Compare those scores to say the Kent State/Central Michigan competition and you can really see how unfair those high scores are. Particular on beam where Peng, Kyla, and Katelyn all had visible errors and still scored above 9.8. Compare that to Kent’s beam rotation (I felt Fabry and Hardison were underscored–at least by a tenth each–but can’t find the video) and you see how an overhaul to implement consistent scoring needs to happen.
Especially when Kent lost to Central by a tenth, some of these tight scores (when other teams are scoring ridiculously high) can be really impactful.
Are NCAA judges specific to a conference during the regular season? For example, does an SEC judge only go to SEC schools? Etc for the the other conferences.
If that is the case, the NCAA could pool the judges and send ones from different areas to the meets – so the judges at UGA for a meet would be from across the US (New Hampshire, Florida, Colorado, Michigan, etc.).
The judges should also receive meet report cards from the head judge (who evaluates everyones work based on committee reports) and this way the top judges will get the plush postseason assignments at Conference champions, Regionals and Nationals and Super Six.
Also, Khazia Hislop from UNC went 9.925 on floor as well! The meet’s not on youtube but highlights are here: http://www.goheels.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&db_oem_id=3350&id=5973467
Who fell on floor for UCLA?
Gracie Kramer fell out of bounds on her middle pass, Kyla Ross fell on her last pass, Janay Honest put her hands down on her last pass (not technically a fall, but close to one), and Stella Savvidou didn’t fall, but she went out of bounds on her middle pass and landed low and stepped forward on her last pass.
Janay fell on her last past more than just touched down, Ross came closer to just touching down.
It may not be a fall where the athlete is sitting on the mat, but hands down is still a five tenths deduction and considered a fall.
I think I have mentioned this before but I have Majesta Valentine from West Chester on my fantasy team with a 9.925 on fx a few weeks back and nothing lower than a 9.8 since. And I’m loving Caroline Morant! She has been a solid contributor to my fantasy gym roster too.
Same here! I actually had Majesta fairly high up on my draft list (as she’s easily their best gymnast and is never not going to do the AA), so I’ve been feeling like a genius.
BREAKING NEWS: Claire Boyce (UF Gators, senior) is hanging up her leotard for medical reasons but will stay with the team as a student coach.
Bummer. She looked like she was in pain when she competed this year. I’m sure it was a hard decision, but it’s a smart one. No point in risking long-term health for a few more meets this year. I, however, wish she could do one event on senior night.